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Old 25th July 2010, 05:56 PM
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I don't know if anyone bets boxed exotics. Even if no one does, this might still be of interest.

I've been testing on paper for quite some time to see if there is any field size that might be superior when boxing exotics. It seems that 10 and 11 runners is the way to go. Since last Wednesday I've been boxing 7 runners with real money on Sportingbet (I won't explain how I make the selections) in fields of 10 and 11. I've excluded Maidens and every starter must have had at least 2 career starts.

The results more or less mirror my somewhat extensive testing, which is encouraging.


Since Wednesday there have been 36 races.

Win betting:
252 bets for a return of $259.40.

Quinellas
27 successes from 36 races. Outlay of $756 for a return of $1,010

Trifectas
25 successes from 36 races. Outlay of $7560 for a return of $18,000.

First Fours
21 successes from 36 races. Outlay of $30,240 for a return of $49,900.

I've also been testing since Thursday fields of 9 runners betting 6 selections. There have only been 10 races and the results are promising.

Quinellas
Outlay of $150 for a return of $259

Trifectas
Outlay of $1,260 for a return of $1,985

First Fours
Outlay of $3,600 for a return of $5,250.

I've also looked at 12 starters betting 8 selections. It is currently showing a profit but it is too inconsistent so I'm scrapping it.

I don't look at stand-out exotics.

My selection process is nothing special, so if anyone has a system/procedure that picked multiple selections they might be interested testing them in exotics with fields of 10 and 11 runners, and maybe even 9.

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Old 25th July 2010, 09:17 PM
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Thanks Michaelg.
Will do.
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Old 25th July 2010, 09:36 PM
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The 5 races that qualified for me in quinellas resulted in 5 bets /3 wins /
$52.10 / $8.10 / $13.90

Box 5 = $10 X 5 times = $50 on each.
Outlay $150 /Nett $220.50

Just a pity I didn,t bet them.

darky

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Old 25th July 2010, 10:13 PM
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Hi, Darky.

There's always tomorrow. Did you check Trifectas and First Fours if you had included a few more selections, particularly with the $52 quinella?

I've found that the exotic divvies in fields of 10 and 11 (and maybe 9?) can often be surprisingly high especially when an outsider runs first or second, which frequently happens. So my selection method often caters to include a few outsiders, or conversely tends not to focus too highly on the form.

And my records show it would be unusual for the top half in the market to consistently snare the trifecta or F.Four, and at times the quinella. Often, even the divvies from just the one race can almost ensure you'll have a profitable day, and its its not unusual to snare them because of the large number of selections. For example, today I won the three exotic bets at Wodonga R8 - the quinella of $130, the trifecta of $1,400 and the First Four of $7,000.

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Old 26th July 2010, 01:04 AM
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I was reading a book that claims that their stats reveal that races with exactly 9 runners produced the most profitable results when it comes to Quinellas being boxed .

For trifectas , they claim 11-12 runners were the most profitable.
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Old 26th July 2010, 07:32 AM
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Hi, Bhagwan.

That's interesting. Did they also say how many selections are boxed or were they generalising? And it would therefore also be expected that 10 runners should also have some success because they are at the mid-point of the quinella and trifecta best number of starters.

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