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Old 6th January 2011, 08:28 AM
wesmip1 wesmip1 is offline
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Default Gear - Does it have an impact ?

Is gear important ... well here is a quick stat which may make you think about it.

If you looked at every horse which had a gear change in the last 2 months (i only have records going back this far for gear) you would have got :

2966 selections
unitab return of 2617 (loss of about 12%)
betfair return of 3229 - 5321 (depending on prices obtained).

Even at the lowest prices obtained you would have made a profit of 8% before commission.

A profit shows by just taking horses which show a change in gear. No other form analysis done. Thats a telling statistic in my opinion. And I haven't even looked into which gear works better. Or whether first time use is better.
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Old 6th January 2011, 02:52 PM
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I think the answer is most cetainly yes...The real answer is do the gear changes have a positive or negative impact.It is well known that blinkers have in general a positive effect( whether this is a positive effect betting wise i dont know).Conversly hoofpads for the first time i believe will have a negative impact. In my humble opinion no hoofpad provides enough artificial cushioning to lessen pain .As for all other gear change , as with these, i am sure analysis of past results. will raise some intersting answers
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Old 7th January 2011, 08:33 AM
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I definitely also agree that gear has a significant impact.

It's interesting to note the worse the class of race, the more gear changes seem to be applied.

I've posted it before, but I found this article to be extremely useful.

http://www.justracing.com.au/thoroughbreds.php?catid=26

If you like a particular commodity, it's always worthy to check for any significant gear changes.

A contributor last year advised never to back horses with bar plates in the wet for instance.

If you check out trainers on the R & S website, there is a stat down the bottom showing how their horses go first up with blinkers.

Thanks wesmip1 for again adding some food for thought. You have the technical nous that can only be good for us old school punters.

Keep up the the work and have a cracking Saturday one and all!

The Schmile
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Old 7th January 2011, 10:06 AM
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Simon Marshall commented during the spring carnival that horses go much better at their second start with blinkers on. It's one comment that has stuck with me and the logic is outstanding when you think about it. I'm fairly sure he was referring to blinkers. This is a really good area to investigate. Great thread!
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Old 7th January 2011, 11:54 AM
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Simon Marshall commented during the spring carnival that horses go much better at their second start with blinkers on. It's one comment that has stuck with me and the logic is outstanding when you think about it. I'm fairly sure he was referring to blinkers. This is a really good area to investigate. Great thread!
Did he mean in general, or just 'some' horses?
thanks
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Old 13th January 2011, 11:50 AM
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I would assume he was generalising
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