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Old 13th November 2011, 10:11 AM
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What would be the best free ratings available??

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Old 13th November 2011, 12:10 PM
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These are backing results using betfair prices. Results are from my website and cover from Aug till yesterday:

Unitab ratings return :

There were 3407 selections for the System
There were 788 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.13%
There were $3106.41 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-300.59 or a percentage profit/loss of -8.82%

Neural ratings(default setting):

There were 2825 selections for the System
There were 645 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.83%
There were $2506.21 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-318.79 or a percentage profit/loss of -11.28%


Don Scott Rating(default setting):

There were 3103 selections for the System
There were 740 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.85%
There were $3054.68 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-48.32 or a percentage profit/loss of -1.56%

Top Place Strike Rate (> 0%):

There were 3303 selections for the System
There were 764 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.13%
There were $3156.35 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-146.65 or a percentage profit/loss of -4.44%

Top Win Strike Rate (> 0%) :

There were 2361 selections for the System
There were 522 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.11%
There were $2500.01 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $139.01 or a percentage profit/loss of 5.89%


Top API Rank (included place strike rate >0% to remove poor races):

There were 2098 selections for the System
There were 478 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.78%
There were $1836.11 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-261.89 or a percentage profit/loss of -12.48%


So based on the results of my website (which are betfair results) you would be worthwhile looking at horses with the top win % and/or top top don scott rater. Even the top Place strike rate is not a bad return for no other filters.
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Old 13th November 2011, 12:20 PM
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[QUOTE=UselessBettor]These are backing results using betfair prices. Results are from my website and cover from Aug till yesterday:

Unitab ratings return :

There were 3407 selections for the System
There were 788 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.13%
There were $3106.41 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-300.59 or a percentage profit/loss of -8.82%

Neural ratings(default setting):

There were 2825 selections for the System
There were 645 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.83%
There were $2506.21 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-318.79 or a percentage profit/loss of -11.28%


Don Scott Rating(default setting):

There were 3103 selections for the System
There were 740 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.85%
There were $3054.68 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-48.32 or a percentage profit/loss of -1.56%

Top Place Strike Rate (> 0%):

There were 3303 selections for the System
There were 764 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.13%
There were $3156.35 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-146.65 or a percentage profit/loss of -4.44%

Top Win Strike Rate (> 0%) :

There were 2361 selections for the System
There were 522 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.11%
There were $2500.01 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $139.01 or a percentage profit/loss of 5.89%


Top API Rank (included place strike rate >0% to remove poor races):

There were 2098 selections for the System
There were 478 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.78%
There were $1836.11 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-261.89 or a percentage profit/loss of -12.48%


So based on the results of my website (which are betfair results) you would be worthwhile looking at horses with the top win % and/or top top don scott rater. Even the top Place strike rate is not a bad return for no other filters.

Gday Uselessbetor

Thanks for all the info, is there a site where Don Scott ratings are freely available?

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Old 13th November 2011, 12:27 PM
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They are available at racing and sports website.
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Old 13th November 2011, 12:31 PM
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They are available at racing and sports website.
Gday Uselessbettor

On racing and sports site are the ratings the neurals or the worksheet?

Thanks for your replys
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Old 13th November 2011, 12:53 PM
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Gday Uselessbettor

On racing and sports site are the ratings the neurals or the worksheet?

Thanks for your replys

Its the worksheet. The don scott ratings are the FR column.
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Old 29th December 2011, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by UselessBettor
These are backing results using betfair prices. Results are from my website and cover from Aug till yesterday:

Unitab ratings return :

There were 3407 selections for the System
There were 788 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.13%
There were $3106.41 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-300.59 or a percentage profit/loss of -8.82%

Neural ratings(default setting):

There were 2825 selections for the System
There were 645 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.83%
There were $2506.21 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-318.79 or a percentage profit/loss of -11.28%


Don Scott Rating(default setting):

There were 3103 selections for the System
There were 740 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.85%
There were $3054.68 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-48.32 or a percentage profit/loss of -1.56%

Top Place Strike Rate (> 0%):

There were 3303 selections for the System
There were 764 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.13%
There were $3156.35 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-146.65 or a percentage profit/loss of -4.44%

Top Win Strike Rate (> 0%) :

There were 2361 selections for the System
There were 522 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.11%
There were $2500.01 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $139.01 or a percentage profit/loss of 5.89%


Top API Rank (included place strike rate >0% to remove poor races):

There were 2098 selections for the System
There were 478 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 22.78%
There were $1836.11 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-261.89 or a percentage profit/loss of -12.48%


So based on the results of my website (which are betfair results) you would be worthwhile looking at horses with the top win % and/or top top don scott rater. Even the top Place strike rate is not a bad return for no other filters.

Gday Uselessbettor

On your website how would I find the results of the top 4 rated Neurals-Don SCott and Unitab Strike rates?
For example using the top 4 rated neurals - how many winners?
Thanks
James
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Old 29th December 2011, 09:54 AM
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James,

depends on what you want. You could do them individually which would give you the most accurate result. So do it for Neural Rank =1 then neural Rank =2, etc. then do it for the others.

You could also get an approx by doing Neural Rank = 1 to get the number of races (which would be the number of selections as very few would be dual top selections). Then just do the Neural Rank between 1 and 4 and it will give you the total number of winners. Divide one by the other and you will have a good approx of the strike rate.

I hope that makes sense.
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Old 30th December 2011, 03:41 PM
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James,

depends on what you want. You could do them individually which would give you the most accurate result. So do it for Neural Rank =1 then neural Rank =2, etc. then do it for the others.

You could also get an approx by doing Neural Rank = 1 to get the number of races (which would be the number of selections as very few would be dual top selections). Then just do the Neural Rank between 1 and 4 and it will give you the total number of winners. Divide one by the other and you will have a good approx of the strike rate.

I hope that makes sense.

Thanks UselessBettor
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