Barny, I can't recall the author but Sportznut springs to mind. You have already mentioned it amongst a host of other systems. It was an outsider plan where the total of the last 3 starts had to add up to 18 or more with a couple of filters added. Something like that. You will recall it immediately I'm sure. A very long thread. I found it most successful using TAB #1-5.

FYI Barny I have read and re-read the threads on this forum over and over and over again so please don't tell me to do some research or that there are profitable systems (even with, added filters) because I sure can't find one. Admittedly some systems appear viable when posted but by the end of the thread ..... you know the answer to that. There were some great contributors in the early years. Most have long departed. It's not hard to see the reason why.

You asked me for the above information which I have given you, now please point me in the direction to a profitable long term system presented on this forum.


Sorry LG, TO, Speedy and cosmos. Management closed the thread before I could reply to you.

In my opinion (and in response to the other thread really), most of us on this "systems" forum are trying our own systems all the time. We come here to see if there is something that we can use or tweak.

Most of us don't list the system here for fear that it may actually work and, therefore, be stolen by someone who will publish it which then turns a profitable system into just another unprofitable system as the prices will come in on a backing system and go out on a laying system.

Of course I would like to see systems mentioned here as much as possible but, IMHO, I think the reason is as above. Also the forum curse usually strikes first day even when you have trialed it for weeks. So embarrassment may also be an issue.

That's what I think anyway.

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Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway.”

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very true TO, my last pitiful effort bought the forum curse to life quick smart

Spot on TO.
Mark is a classic example. He makes a living off the punt but the few times he has started a thread with the selections it seems to go belly up on him.

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Don't be fooled Jose, I had an average Saturday win using the method I outlined in detail on here some time age, which wins day after day after day. It more than made up for the small loss from my posted lays.

I didn't mean to single you out Mark, sorry.
I know you make a living of the punt, but the old forum curse seems to get 'em eevry time.
That method you mention, is that the "Race 5 onwards laying the first fav for a set amount, and then the 2nd and 3rd fav to break square' one?
Understand if you don't want to answer that too.

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I remember Mark's selection method with an in-built staking plan.
Infact i have a copy of that thread somewhere.
Then yes, it went belly up for a while. Among other things, it got it's own members only forum.
And it even got dedicated programmers having a field day to. Where are they now ?!!

The best part is, it's portable, meaning i can use it anywhere and no computers internet required.

Again, thank you Mark.

Sometimes the simplest things are missed.
One programmer i do have respect for said this,
"We get so hung up on minute details, we then miss the obvious".

Don't remember going belly up Puntz, I haven't had a losing month since Betfair started.

Barny, that is only one system right? If so I'll just have to accept your word that it is a winning one and has passed the test of time. Vortech may or may not be able to confirm your findings?

Anyway, to me it is just a load of back fitted jargon. From my experience the less rules a system has the more likely it is show the least loss on turnover. I would rather place my trust in michaelg than in you Barny. Sorry.

You're in strife if you're relying on someone other than yourself Bernie .....