No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 LONHRO John Hawkes D Beadman 3 58
2 EXCELLERATOR Gai Waterhouse J Cassidy 2 58
3 DEFIER Guy Walter C Munce 7 58
4 CARNEGIE EXPRESS (NZ) David Payne C Brown 5 58
5 BEDOUIN John O'Shea H Bowman 1 58
6 SHAGS Paul Perry L Beasley 10 58
7 WYANGAN PINES Guy Walter D Beasley 9 58
8 CLANGALANG Gerald Ryan M Rodd (a) 4 57.5
9 HALF HENNESSY Bede Murray R M Quinn 6 57.5
10 REPUBLIC LASS Guy Walter G Boss 8 55.5

DEFIER (3) a good chance to topple the fav. LONHRO (1) with EXCELLERATOR (2) not too far away. My roughie - CARNEGIE EXPRESS (4). Good punting!

(1)LONHRO-(8)Clangalang-(4)Carnegie Express-(2)Excellerator
REGARDS
WILLIAM

lonhro
defier
excellerator

easiest tri of the day. no value in race except defier straight out but can he beat lonhro. not tomorrow i dont think unless there is a genuine speed in the race.

if there is he can win.

lonhro so versatile where he can settle. defier is a little bit more one dimesional and really is a 2000 metre horse where lonhro is a classic miler whose class gets him to 2000 metres.

little O to win but be wary of shorts odds. if defier is at 9/2 and excellerator at 5/1 or better I think a dutchie could be the way to go.

anyways going to be a great race.

good puntin'

umrum

lonhro, wyangan pines, defier & carnegie express

HI ALL
LONHRO, DEFIER, CLANGALANG, HALF HENNESSY

Not that I am trying to say in anyway that Lohnro isn't a great horse but it sure would be nice to see a field actually take him on for a change rather than hand the race to him.


Just about every group race he won in sydney last campaign came in 7 horse fields or less with no speed in the race it was all just left to be a sit and sprint race we all know Lohnro has a great turn of foot.

I can't see him getting beat today just don't see the speed in the race to make it an honestly run race Lohnro should win this easily with Defier, Shags and Excellerator fighting out the placings.

Anyone even thinking of wasting money on these type of races ["any price a winner"] is trying to win races, not money. Hardly worth skiting about is it ... "got on at $1.70 and won!". Yeh? ...Wow!

The Bookies and Tab. will love you all Spring.

My two-bobs worth of personal opinion anyway.

Cheers.

[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2003-08-24 04:51 ]

Nothing wrong with a $1.70 winner - still equates to a 70% POT for the race. TAB will love you what ever you bet on but you will end up with more money in your pocket at the end of Spring if you concentrate on the $1.70 runners instead of the $7.10 runners! All you have to do is work out the worthwhile investments from the overhyped ones.

Just my personal opinion :smile:

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..and if you win 7 out of ten of those races Becareful you have won what? Peanuts for the risk. You may as well buy Telstra shares that pay a fully franked 17%.
Besides, the "champion"[?]in Syd. almost lost it.
Between $1.70 and $7.10 lays an ocean of betting ground [as you know] to look for winners in. What do you suggest, we only have two betting camps? Those looking for $2.00 and less and those looking above $7.00? I'll take the between thanks and good luck with your below $2.00 shortners!

My point was and I think it valid if you read between the lines, is that accepting very short odds on selections in fields which are often very open races [and how open was yesterday in Syd. and Melb. will runaway T/Bias on both] the Bookies and Tabs will have a field day. As they did Yesterday.
Bias and openness considered, $1.70 was an underlay as they where on most of the other favourites [that lost by the way]. Anyone who took the $1.70 on that winning bet, lost chasing other favotites [Lets not get carried away will hindsight beting as if the $1.70 was the only bet].

Cheers.

[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2003-08-24 14:24 ]

I actually left that particular 1.70 pick alone - did not meet my criteria for a bet. However my only two "serious" bets yesterday (of the four-legged variety anyway) were both less than $3.00 on the tote. I finished the day with 2 bets for 2 winners paying 3.30 (IAS fixed price - payed 2.80 on Tabcorp) and 2.43 (IAS DiviPlus) so a POT for the day on my serious betting of 186%.

I am not saying that this is the best approach - it is just what suits me best at the moment. There seems to be a huge "phobia" about betting on short priced horses but as long as you are selective they can be a great profit maker. If you look at the statistics the short priced horses show the smallest loss (without filters) - therefore you don't have as much of a disadvantage to overcome before you start making profit.

As has been said many times here before - you just need to find your preferred area and exploit it regardless of whether others think it can or cant be done!

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