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Old 5th July 2004, 02:41 PM
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Hey Guys n Gals,

I am wandering if anyone could help me out with a few useful tips, theories or tactics you would have on doing a flexi trifecta?
Take into mind the maximum I would put on it was $15 maybe more if I was tempted...heheh...just interested to know, cuz I have had absolutely no luck lately on em...and desperately want to get one, so I can jump for joy.... Thanks

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Old 5th July 2004, 04:47 PM
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Mystic

Some serious advice that you may not like....don't do them.
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Old 5th July 2004, 05:41 PM
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maybe you could box 6 horses ,spend $15
but make sure you put in roughies and it was a big field,because the tri needs to pay $120 so you get your money back.I did one in sydney last time I was there and ended up losing money even though I got it
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Old 5th July 2004, 08:16 PM
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Hi Mystic
I was in the same boat as you not long ago but i seem to be getting a few lately..
I look at spending $30 on a tri for .50c..
I don't think there is anyway of making money on trifectas just on systems alone..you need to have a selection in the race you like if its favourite well and good but if its not you should think the likely favourite is the danger...
I put my selection on top with the likely favourite plus the highest Zip rating horse (sportsman) so thats 3 on top...
on the next line put the next two in betting and then the roughie with the best barrier.
so you have a combo of 3/6/6
If the favourite is your selection then you have that on top with the top Zip rating horse then on the next 2 lines the next 4 in betting and then the roughie with the best barrier..2/7/7

If you look at my thread "Mav's tips" you will see some results over the last few weeks..i've only just started to use this system so watching my results and having hypo's with your selections would give you an idea of how its going..

You sometimes get equal favs that are fluxuating ..i usually go with the one with the highest rating..
All the experts will tell you its just to hard to get tri's but especially around carnival times its just to tempting to ignore.. ..

Good luck :smile:
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Old 6th July 2004, 12:00 PM
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Thankyou for your replies.... Maverick I will give that a go, seems as though my chances would be alot better, thanks for that. Just wandering I have a fair idea about good and bad barriers, but what would you describe them as? The more advice from people in the know the better I think.

Saturday shall be the tester and I hope me numbers come in.

Ya know one day I was in the TAB and there was this guy...no joke he was putting in trifecta after trifecta through the machines to the total of 600 odd dollars..ever since that day I cant help wonder if he came out on top.He seemed to have his own little system happening there, I was almost half tempted to pull him aside and investigate....lol

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Old 6th July 2004, 12:31 PM
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I didn’t do all that well in the early days – strike rate was OK but profit overall not that flash.

Introduced some basic rules and return on investment (ROI) has improved dramatically and likewise overall profit.

1. Odds-on favourite in race, forget it.
2. If you believe the top 4 in betting are all genuine chances, regardless of your personal choice or choices, forget it.

These rules will eliminate many poor value flexis (and potential loss, even if you get the tri up!).


3. If you can’t identify at least ¼ of the field as non-chances for the place (to leave out altogether), forget it. This last point is very interesting. Judging a horse’s place potential can be very different to judging their win potential. Different slant. Many good dividends due to high priced placegetters who I thought could run a place (at a push) but had really no hope of winning (IMO).

This rule improves ROI.

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Old 6th July 2004, 04:49 PM
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I think what SportznAll and me are saying is that you have to be very selective on the races you choose..Trifectas can be very frustrating..but alot of fun :smile:

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Old 6th July 2004, 06:35 PM
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Hi Mystic,
Good to hear from you again, You post about as much as I do lately.
I was just interested in your remark about the guy that spends about $600 a race on Tri,s.
It can work depending on how you work your race out and what races you go into.
Many years ago I used to do only Tri,s and made very good money. My bets were between $300 and $800 a race depending on the structure of the odds in the race, AND a hell of a lot of races were left alone.
E.G 10 runners and the 5th favourite 15/1 or better. The obvious result 95% of the time was spend $300 to get $50 back, because of a favourites result.
I never knew a horse's name, whether it had 3 or 5 legs, I worked wholly and solely from bookies odds and the structure of the race.
The best races were say about 14 or 15 horse field with a 5/1 favourite and then the $800 would be spent, and I would go very wide in the market.
I NEVER had a losing day.
I used to aim for $500+ and stop.
I can hear all the Knockers already typing their keypads in reply.
The difference in those days was that there was only Syd Melb and Bris races and there was only 2 TAB trifecta races a day in each state.
I NEVER bet on the TAB races which left me with 18 races a day to bet on where the money in the trifecta pool WAS ON COURSE MONEY ONLY.
E.G say a mid week Canterbury, average pools were Bris $6000 Melb $10000 and Syd $20000.
EVERY DAY there would be a SWITCH in 1 or 2 races the Tri paid on because of a donkey result and 99% of the time I had the switch.
The best examples I can give you is Rosehill my first bet of the day was Bris and the Tri paid on 1st 2nd any. I had 1st 2nd with 3 horses for 3rd.
The tri paid $1900+ so I had it 3 times.
THAT WAS THE TOTAL ON COURSE POOL.
These days this cannot happen.
That was my best result the worst was a mid week Canterbury last race of the day which was a melbourne race, I was $4600 down for the day with that bet on and it switched and the tri paid $4660. I assume someone else also had the switch hence the divi.
The person you mentioned has maybe come up with some sort of pattern in certain races and if so it can possibly work.
Since ALL races went TAB I have tried the beat it but cannot.

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