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23rd December 2005, 02:18 PM

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TRAINER'S PICKS

Going to follow a pretty lucrative system live here.

RULES

The trainer must be a leading trainer.

Hayes
Freedman
Hawkes
Waterhouse
(will do for now)

Trainer must own or part own the horse.

These trainers have wads of cash and don't invest in a horse unless it's pretty special, or has the potential to be. They want to retain an interest in the horse and are prepared to forego a percentage of training fees.
Trainers are savvy business people and don't invest lightly.
Got to be some sort of guide.

Past Results

Set Apart (Lindsay Park) 24 starts 4 wins Return $30.50 Profit $6.50 units
Wyndam Power (D A Hayes) 12 starts 2 Wins Return $16.50 Profit $4.50 units
Giggling Giggs (D A Hayes) 17 starts 3 wins Return $13.25 Loss $3.75 units
Opinion Poll (D A Hayes) 13 starts 2 wins Return $17.00 Profit $4.00 units
Pommery Princess (D A Hayes) 24 starts 4 wins Return $17.75 Loss $6.25 units
Vintner (D A Hayes) 19 starts 4 wins Return $97.00 Profit 78.00 units
Meridian Star (D A Hayes) 69 starts 5 wins Return $26.10 Loss $42.90 units
Xaarlington (D A Hayes) 5 starts 0 wins Return 0 Loss $5.00 units
Dantage (D A Hayes) 5 starts 2 wins Return $7.00 Profit $2.00 units
Fuchsia Lady (D A Hayes) 17 starts 5 wins Return $33.00 Profit $16.00 units

These are just some horses career results that have raced in the last month.

Outlay 205 units
Return 258.10 units
Profit 53.10 units
POT 25.90%

But it's a long time (low strike rate system)

I'll post qualifiers for metro races only on this thread and post profit and loss results from the first day of selections.

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23rd December 2005, 02:34 PM

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Friday Moonee Valley

R5 H1 Set Apart (Lindsay Park Syndicate)

23rd December 2005, 02:36 PM

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I believe this is a very logical way of determining selections. I will certainly follow with interst,and the success is all there for those to see if they wish to follow for periods of time.

Ive backed Set Apart at $2 EW for a little dabble.

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23rd December 2005, 02:48 PM

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Saturday

Sandown R1 2 Dantage (D A HAYES)
Sandown R1 3 Gunpowder (Markdel Racing Syndicate)
Sandown R5 2 Shan Dian (D A HAYES)
Sandown R6 8 Jeune's Edge (D A HAYES)
Sandown R7 12 Miss Rogers (D A HAYES)
Sandown R8 13 Bucephalus (D A HAYES)

Warwick Farm R1 4 Frozen (Wayne Hawkes)
Warwick Farm R3 5 Tirdlettar (D A HAYES)
Warwick Farm R8 1 Headland (D A HAYES)

23rd December 2005, 03:01 PM

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Monday (Boxing Day).

Cheltenham R4 4 Giggling Giggs (D A HAYES)
Cheltenham R7 8 Redoutable (D A HAYES)

Flemington R6 5 Ulysses (D A HAYES)
Flemington R6 7 Vintner (D A HAYES)

Randwick R1 5 Sob Story (Ms G M Waterhouse)
Randwick R4 4 What's The Time (D A HAYES)

I do not expect to make a profit from these horses for quite a while. It is the surprise results which make up the profit. i.e. poor form, but capable of winning as they have an inherent edge. At least that's what the trainers reckon

23rd December 2005, 05:07 PM

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RESULTS FROM LAST WEEKEND..JUST FOR THE CURIOUS, NOT ADDED TO THE TALLY

Redoutable $5.60
Merdian Star unplaced
Ulysses $9.80
Pure Velocity unplaced
Stormy Youth $2.90
Endless Odyssey 3rd (NTD)
Meriwether unplaced
Imperial Faberges 3rd $1.50
Pommery princess unplaced

Outlay 9 units
Return 18.30 units
Profit 9.30 units
POT 103.33%

Watch them market this one next!

23rd December 2005, 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrome Prince

Friday Moonee Valley

R5 H1 Set Apart (Lindsay Park Syndicate)

A third place @ $1.70

23rd December 2005, 09:34 PM

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C.P.not knocking your system but I reckon high profile trainers horses are over bet to the hilt by the rank & file. I've been following trainers that have a high strike rate but aren't "fashionable", for a while now with quite good success.

23rd December 2005, 09:51 PM

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Hi freek,

yes they are overbet in general.

BUT I am sticking to the horses that may not have good form, but the trainer thinks they are good enough to own or have a share of. This is where we get the overs.

Time will tell I guess, and yes you can follow high strike rate trainers but with low profiles. Good luck with your venture.

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24th December 2005, 04:31 PM

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Results Saturday

Sandown R1 2 Dantage 2nd $2.50
Sandown R1 3 Gunpowder unpl.
Sandown R5 2 Shan Dian unpl.
Sandown R6 8 Jeune's Edge unpl.
Sandown R7 12 Miss Rogers unpl.
Sandown R8 13 Bucephalus unpl.

Warwick Farm R1 4 Frozen 2nd $2.10
Warwick Farm R3 5 Tirdlettar unpl.
Warwick Farm R8 1 Headland unpl.

It's going to take a few runs by each horse to show a profit.

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