All that matters Feather is that you have been smart enough to utilize the system and applied it to your style. If one punter only has profited I have shared something worthwhile. Good on you mate.

All that matters Feather is that you have been smart enough to utilize the system and applied it to your style. If one punter only has profited I have shared something worthwhile. Good on you mate [don't forget my $1 sometime :-) ]

G'day

Just new to this forum, use Bet Selector to play around, have Metro data back to Jan 2002, hope can I offer something and learn heaps from some of you learned or seasoned campaignors....

Crash - I was interested to have a look at this little system of yours going forward (I can't go back as I don't keep f/guides). Do you mind if I clarify some of your original rules or ask feather what he is doing (as he is obviously pretty keen on the subject)

Grub

How good am I going first up.


A quick search of old threads has done the trick, thats a 'no brainer'.

Grub,

Go with the original rules before I started to tweak them to improve 'Spring carnival' performance. In fact I should re-post the [complete] original rules as the rules I posted are only 'almost' original. Still a winner though as posted. In fact a VERY good winner for over 3yrs. now [and who said no one would ever post a winning system on this forum?].

Turned up some nice winners lately inc. a $12 win in SA metro a couple of weeks back.

The system is free, but I'll hold onto the intellectual property rights in case some ************** tries to put it up as theirs for sale. I still use it off and on as a rest from handicapping.

How close is this to your original Crash?

I wish you luck.
My memory is a bit sketchy on this one but didn't someone have a system on here for a long time then suddenly it dissappeared because it was for sale somewhere. I'm not sure who the seller was nor which came first the thread or the system seller but I hope you've got your 'intellectual property' registered somewhere other than on a public forum.

KV

Kenny,
I've copied and stored the original thread from when I first posted it.

Grub,

Rules 1,2,4,5,7 are original [not put up as is]. For the first year, odds were open to $7PP. I changed that because the $7 runners weren't paying their way. The price rules control Class. $7 runners were [usually] up in class too much, although they get up now and then at up to SP $15.

I included cups, stakes and group races when I put the system up because it was the start of spring. I have a personal prejudice against these races and 1000m. events except as fun bets. I don't think they payed their way long term, but it was more interesting. They can be included if you like [there my prejudices only], but I ignore them as 5/1 the field races mostly as anything can get up, look what happened to Candy Vale. I also added Dead tracks.

.......................................NO BRAINER........................................... ....

1. All meetings [except WA] No Hurdles, Maidens, 2yr. old races, Cups,
... Stakes or Group races. No Fillies and Mares races [Mares only OK].
2. Distances 1100m to 2200m only.
3. Add placings last 4 starts. Total must be no more than 9 [X, 0 or S =10]
4. Last start must have been 18 days or less.
5. Good Track only
6. Max weight 57kg after any apprentice allowances.
7. PP odds $2.50 to $6.80 from: www.watabonline.com
8. If more than one contender, choose the lower odds and if odds the same, choose lower TAB No.

NOTE* Newspaper PP odds can also be used but stick to the same source.

Feather has refined these rules to suit himself and is doing OK I hear. God only knows what his rules are now. Good luck to him I say.

Cheers.

Rule 4 is an injury rule. If the runner is starting within 18 days, it usually means it pulled up well and uninjured from the previous start.

The 57kg. rule ...well check out how many runners win with 57.5kg and up, especially non-metro. Not enough to be profitable in this system.

Rule 6 is there because PP odds are mostly done for good tracks. Wet tracks throw the system out because the PP odds are then out of whack.

Why do I put the system up? Because I'm happy with my punting efforts [mostly handicapping] and I enjoy myself as a serious amateur. I'm not trying to make a fortune [too old to be of any use to me] or become a Pro. Punter which doesn't mean I lose or my POT on average is worse either. My turnover though is not in the Pro. bracket [meaning enough to live on]. I also believe punters flit from system to system at the first run of decent outs, so long term the odds are not going to be affected.

Grub,

Correct www address is below. From there save it to 'favorites' and register [free]. This is the page to go to once registered to log in and view PP odds. I like them because they are mechanical, not worked out by somebody. They are often put up a bit late [11am.] during the week. When you spot a selection, click on the runner and it's recent form, last start will come up and check it is within the 18 day rule [an easy rule to forget]. Cick on 'back' to return to the races.
This site is also a good place to check STAB results on the one page at the end of the day.

If you are having a good run with this system don't get carried away with bet amounts. After the first year that I used it, my bets were up to $300 a bet, then I hit a big bad patch of mostly outs ......ouch !!!

http://www.tabform.thewest.com.au/j.../TFFrameset.jsp