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Old 2nd March 2007, 03:03 PM
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I heard a self-serving comment by a commentator this morning downplaying the seriousness of this charge.
His assertion that this " minor offence" would be treated more leniently in Australia is not a valid argument.
These are the laws of a sovereign nation and must be respected while any person is a guest/resident in that nation.
Make no mistake....racing is no longer a "sport"...it is a major industry/business, probably in the top five employers, number-wise in our economy. Similarly, racing is the most popular recreational industry in HK and they do not want anything to potentially taint their industry which may have a negative effect on their tourism and wagering turnover revenue.
So, as a business associate of mine stated:....if you do the crime....you do the time(not suggesting anything untoward occurred in HK).

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Old 3rd March 2007, 04:55 AM
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Since when has giving tips been a crime??

This is a load of CRAP!

Munce has obviously stepped on some influential toes.

Remember he went back to face the music of his own accord.

Remember the pommie jock,John Egan,,who did not return to face charges of corrupt practices,and nothing more was done about it.

Hopefully,an appeal will be lodged,and will be successful,and sanity will prevail.
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Old 3rd March 2007, 11:45 AM
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Since when has giving tips been a crime??


Since he allegedly pocketed $205,000 cash for those tips.
It is also alleged he was paid for the tips by way of bets placed on his behalf.
Further, it is also alleged that he rode in races in accordance with those tips.
There is also evidence of taped recordings between the jockey and illegal bookmakers, along with evidence that he rode a horse that was leading easily into the straight, only to run second. Further evidence revealed the jockey to be part of an alleged conspiracy.

ANY jockey involved in these practices should be jailed in my opinion, as not only are they involved in breaching the code of conduct of racing, but bring racing into disrepute, obtain a financial advantage by deception and theft from the punting public, and the owners and trainers they ride for.

As a side note, I bet on two trot races last night and would dearly love to see both drivers jailed.
The horses in question were driven in a manner that could only be described as "wanting to lose". Despite their efforts, both horses almost actually won.
We of course can get paranoid about these things, but this was so obvious to not even be funny.
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Old 3rd March 2007, 01:00 PM
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Yeah CP,
I agree with you!
Then again why are you still investing good money on the "red hots," particularly when bookies and professional punters are leaving the "sport" in droves?
Look at the recent bad press relating to this industry and ask yourself: "when will something be done?", eg, appointing an ICAC officer to investigate happenings and follow up with necessary action if it is deemed appropriate.
Otherwise this industry will "wither on the vine" and who will be responsible?....those individuals who bring the industry into disrepute!

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Old 3rd March 2007, 04:30 PM
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Correct Xanadu,

I'm actually recording my own log of drivers that do obvious things to highly fancied horses, and I'm going to start laying their horses.
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Old 7th March 2007, 02:59 PM
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Today's media reports that there is a real chance of a prisoner exchange with Hong Kong/PRC and Munce may be able to serve his sentence in the relatively comfortable confines of an Australian penal institution.
Any thoughts on this matter, all comments welcome.

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Old 7th March 2007, 03:25 PM
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Now how can that be, assuming he broke no Australian laws only Hong Kong laws.
On that basis he should serve a minimum and be paroled very quickly, or does the government have to enter some kind of agreement.

Imagine "I served time for not breaking the law"

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Old 7th March 2007, 04:36 PM
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Yeah, well, we will have to monitor our own news services.
Remember, things which we consider to be rather trivial in Australia are deemed more seriously in other nations.
Therefore, how smart are they?...........they know the consequences....why do they continue to ignore local laws/values?
I am all for law and order no matter what country you/I may wish to visit.

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Old 21st March 2007, 01:00 PM
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Did anyone hear on 2KY this morning the replay of an interview with Chris Munce's mother?
It was conducted by 2KY's sister station and replayed on 2KY. His mother outlined the conditions he is enduring and gave an insight to his current state of mind and his prospects of lodging an appeal.
It was very interesting and highlighted the difficulty of lodging an appeal in HK, emphasising that the defence counsel must prepare their case in intricate detail. It also emphasised that a lot of work is currently underway in the background as defence counsel prepare their case.
Any thoughts on this matter?

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Old 21st March 2007, 01:41 PM
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post17,

CP, you are correct....there is no chance of a prisoner exchange and this was reiterated by Mrs Munce during the interview due to the reasons you highlighted. The prospects for something else were purely media speculation.
We'll have to wait and see what happens.
Don't forget....PRC is probably in the top two of our trading partners so any reasonable person could assume that happenings are occurring behind the scene.

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