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Old 15th February 2008, 09:58 AM
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Yes, Thorns. More often than not it is Unitab with the lowest divvies.

But as Lomaca says, even Supertab bettered Unitab.

Sooner or later NSW and Vic TABs will most likely be combined which should create some sort of stability, but the punters who bet on Best TAB will be adversely affected. Maybe also with IAS's Super Price.
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Old 17th February 2008, 07:13 PM
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The system today snared the trifecta (also the quinella and first four) at Camperdown race 2.

I now don't feel too bad because the NSW TAB trifecta divvy was $1,482 yet $1,0510 on Unitab and a piddling $597 on Supertab, and surprisingly only $1,078 with IAS Superprice.

Swings and roundabouts...

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Old 20th February 2008, 06:09 PM
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The system snared the exotics at Hawkesbury race 8. The trifecta here in NSW paid $807, with Unitab $1,484, and with STAB it was $998. Because our TAB is currently the only one, I think, to offer flexi-betting it could be assumed that this is adversely affecting the larger divvies.

Out of curiousity I have been monitoring some of the larger divvies and the above is not unusual.

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Old 20th February 2008, 08:07 PM
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You would think it would affect the divi, you can go wider for less % same cost.
Do the smaller ones pay more?
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Old 20th February 2008, 09:39 PM
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The smaller trifectas are more or less consistent with the other states. One of the smallest the system has struck was today's Mornington race 10. In NSW it paid $212, on Unitab it was $168 and STAB it was $185, so there's not too great a difference.

The trifecta pools are very small in relation to the number of combinations which easily leads to the the huge discrepencies between the TABs because a $1 bet on three, or even two, outsiders can drastically distort the divvy. In regard to the combinations factor, today's offending race (Hawkesbury race 8) had 14 starters which meant that there was a total of 2,184 trifecta combinations yet the pool only held $34,178 - approximately $17 for every combination. In contrast, there were 91 quinella combinations, the pool held $19,132 - approximately $210 for every combination. The First Four pool is even more inequitable - a few cents for every combination. In the first couple of weeks, when the method snared two particular First Fours where the divvy exceeded the total money held in the pool I then decided the inequity was too unrealistic and unpredictable, so I no longer record F.Fours in the method's results.

Because the faves fill the places for the smaller trifecta divvies, they are not prone to the distortions that the outsiders can create. So, there should not be too much difference in the 3 TABs for the lower divvies. After saying that, I'll probably have another rant if I snare a $100 divvy yet it pays double in the other 2 TABs.

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Old 21st February 2008, 02:57 PM
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You mite be better with a bookmaker like IAS they offer (see below )


Bet IASbet SuperPrice and be guaranteed that the payout will exceed at least 2 Australian TABs . In fact SuperPrice often exceeds all Australian TABs for Win, Place, Quinella, Exacta, Trifecta and Multi-betting.

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Old 21st February 2008, 07:07 PM
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Yes, I'd be better off wIth IAS Super Price.

However the problem is that they only accept exotic bets up to 3 minutes prior to the start time. Because the prices are one of the method rules to identify a qualifying race there have on a few occasions where I did so with about a minute prior to the start, then I have to also identify the selections. Sometimes it's touch-and-go to get the bets on at the TAB. I've even missed some very good divvies because for one reason or another I was unable to get the bets on before the race began. Its a terrible feeling when this happens, even worse than snaring the exotics where NSW TAB has by far the worst divvies.

If IAS would let us bet right up to the start time I'd certainly do so, but until then I will have to stick with the TAB. Its also a pity that they don't offer First Fours because the method has struck some huge divvies.

I've just realised that I have been now betting for one month with real money on the method. There have been 73 races and results are:

Quinellas:
Strike rate of 80.82%
POT of 38.28%.

Trifectas:
Strike rate of 56.16%
POT of 57.81%.

Maybe its just a lucky streak its going through and might now start to go backwards.
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