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Old 5th December 2008, 07:53 PM
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crazybadger, does it get more interesting if only 100 pointers + Top Tip + placed 1st or 2nd within 21days?
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Old 5th December 2008, 08:48 PM
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Hmmm unfortunately my current data doesn't have the number of days between races so I cant do that exactly. But I did some similar combos for you (just 2008 data) that might help:

Top Tip + 100 Rating
Selections: 4214
1st: 1379 (32.72%)
2nd: 726 (17.23%)
3rd: 580 (13.76%)
Not Placed: 1529 (36.28%)
Avg Win Price (all): 3.06
Avg Win Price (winners only): 2.56
Avg Plc Price: 1.51
Longest Win Sequence: 8
Longest Losing Sequence: 23

Top Tip + 100 Rating + Placed last race
Selections: 2540
1st: 885 (34.84%)
2nd: 457 (17.99%)
3rd: 345 (13.58%)
Not Placed: 853 (33.58%)
Avg Win Price (all): 2.9
Avg Win Price (winners only): 2.46
Avg Plc Price: 1.47
Longest Win Sequence: 7
Longest Losing Sequence: 18

Top Tip + 100 Rating + Won last race
Selections: 920
1st: 319 (34.67%)
2nd: 168 (18.26%)
3rd: 124 (13.48%)
Not Placed: 309 (33.59%)
Avg Win Price (all): 2.79
Avg Win Price (winners only): 2.31
Avg Plc Price: 1.46
Longest Win Sequence: 7
Longest Losing Sequence: 12


Best I can offer you right now...stay tuned tho as I am thinking about upgrading my data structure to include heaps of extra info like dates of previous runs, what the jockey had for breakfast etc...
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Old 5th December 2008, 10:35 PM
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crazybadger, Firstly thanks very much for that, I think I'm right in saying that in all those cases the figures imporoved quite dramatically from just Top Tip, and in all cases getting VERY close to break even for the place "MECHANICALLY" So one has to ask the question were those figures Unitab? if so the gurus tell me that one can expect about 10% improvement with BEST TOTE/SP, and almost 20% with Betfair, you can see where I'm heading here????

Late mail, is definitly another way top improve things BUT this ties one to within a few minutes of 1st race time in many instances.

Another consideration I suppose is METRO-V- PROVINCIAL/Country

And another one is that last start win auomatically cuts out all the maiden races.

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Old 7th December 2008, 06:36 AM
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Well done Crazybadger,
Thanks for sharing your data base.
One thing that looks interesting from those figures is ...

.Lay all 100ptrs that ran 3rd last time not to run a place .

.Must be 1.40 - 1.90 in the place market.

Is it possible to run this idea through your data base.

We are looking for a Loss On Turnover (LOT)

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Old 21st April 2009, 05:43 PM
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Bringing up this thread again, I see that Crazybadger has been suspended. But going back to the original stats, where it seemed that the top tip for a win showed a profit (until he clarified his stats), does anybody have the corrected figures the place return? The SR should be correct (around 56%), but am after the loss figures specifically.

Hope somebody can help?

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Crazybadger chose not to contact us and change his/her registered forum e-mail address to one that does not bounce.

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Old 24th April 2009, 01:52 PM
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Radio TAB Top selection only.
58% plc , 87% ROI


Radio Top selection + 100ptr
66% plc , 91% ROI

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Old 24th April 2009, 02:22 PM
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Default TAB fixed price

Hi, anyone keeping a comparative record between the normal TAB divi and the fixed divi?
If so, can you share it please.
Thanks
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Old 24th April 2009, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
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Radio TAB Top selection only.
58% plc , 87% ROI


Radio Top selection + 100ptr
66% plc , 91% ROI

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