lomaca, even though in my opinion it has a better jockey, I think Lyceum Fair might finish in front of it. But don't let me dissuade you from backing it.

You seem to have that Forum Curse well and truly "broken in", Michael (Shh. --- I know I should not say that out loud ). Well done.

Any for today??

Hi, Merriguy.

Yes, both methods are going quite well in spite of one day's listing for each method here to tempt the Curse. At the moment, Win is outperforming Place betting in both methods which surprises me. However there have not been many selections so far - only 38 in one and 50 in the other.

I am uneasy at the moment to fequently list the selections here but might do so every now and then. If any of the two methods continue to perform after a certain period of time that gives me confidence I might then release the rules to any forumite privately.

Nice going michaelg! Still yet to lose!
Any hints as to the method behind it?

Hi, Thorns.

I'm now looking at a third system using the 8 to 12 starters rule.

The two normal systems are not doing well at the moment, glad I didn't post today's selections. Hopefully they'll pick up.

michaelg, funny thing about place betting, I've had some amazing runs 22-24 followed by a loser or two and then another run 20+ etc etc. But the only thing that matters is the last RUNNING total column. I left 3 alone today as they were what I call TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE i.e. Whistle in the first, Almighty runner, and Ma Ma Machine.

Hi, Party.

A very bad day yesterday - halved the profit in both methods for win and place betting.

After yesterday's battering I'll list today's selections for the original system and see if it picks up.

Tamworth R4 no.1 - Laogan
Coffs Harbour R4 no.2 - Runaway Shadow
Sun Coast R4 no.2 - Frisco Lights*
Hobart R5 no.6 - Turbo Qui*
Hobart R6 no.7 - She's Good As Gold*
Port Lincoln R3 no.3 - Ziparoo*

* = these are Unitab 100 pointers which has a better POT in the system with both win and place betting.

After the two losing days the method has picked up. I'll list today's selections and see how they go.

Gosford R7 no.5 - Steel Blue
Sandown R4 no.1 - Better Be The One
Dombeen R2 no.5 - Love A Sequalo
Dombeen R4 no.9 - Academic Queen
Hokitaki R7 no.5 - Kay's Command
Murray Bridge R2 no.8 - Cognac Queen
Murray Bridge R4 no.2 - Deal Broker.