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Old 28th August 2010, 01:27 AM
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Stugots' BSA= Bool Sheet Artists, and thats my last word in this thread!!
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Old 28th August 2010, 04:20 AM
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That doubling up staking plan works fine if one does not have any long runs of outs , which eventually happens & thats when the tear drops start, not fair I know, but fair ain't got nothing to do with it.

Try this on Favs
Must be highest in place rankings.
Must be Fav priced $3.30 & less on TAB.

This improves its SR dramatically.
40% SR
Stats show -8% LOT at level stakes using TAB prices.

Make selection using TAB figures but make your actual money bet with either...
Betfair ,for best value.
or
Betezy best of 3 Totes or something similar.
They allow bets as low as .10 if need be.

You may like to try the Retirement staking plan (Google it)
Only with a twist , which is ,reduce its divisor by the rounded up decimal odds price of the winner rather than its fractional odds (e.g. 2/1)
e.g. if its price is say $2.50 , we make it 3/1 , now deduct this of the previous divisor used.

It now crushes this plan into profit where at level stakes it may show a loss.

The idea of the Retirement plan is to start again as soon as any profit is made.
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Old 28th August 2010, 12:41 PM
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Its a ************ hard game to win at and you need to start with a very large bankroll to make any decent money.
What I found quite good (so far ) is the Free ************** daily tip .They have their losses but not long sequences.
Here I bet $50 1st bet /If it wins next bet $100 then go back to $50.
Repeat.
If it loses remain on the $50 until you get another winner then next bet $100 then go back to $50.

The starting bank for this was $5000.At bet 80 the bank is $5954

Hope thats of some help.

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Old 28th August 2010, 02:12 PM
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Stugots' BSA= Bool Sheet Artists, and thats my last word in this thread!!



ahh, it all makes sense now
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Old 29th August 2010, 12:18 AM
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Default Stil very early but heres hoping

So I'm three weeks into testing my new revised plan and it's showing a profit on level stakes currently 11% for place pot and 17% for win pot only betting friday through sunday... So looking ok but I must admit the percentages have slipped a bit hoping it can stand up...

Anyone who makes some money here care to tell me how many solid systems they would run at once??

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Old 29th August 2010, 05:39 AM
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To answer as to how many systems one can run .

Answer is , as many as you can, according to bank roll dedicated to each one.
Also the time one has to allocate for the processing.

I have run up to 115 systems all at once , using a computer program called GTX (Google it for info), that would do all the work for all the different selection processes.
It could make all the selections for the day in about 2 seconds.


I would have one bank & bet to a ratio 200/1 up & down for each day.

If one is going to use one big bank roll for the lot, I would not double up on any selection mentioned twice, due to a different system also selecting the same runner.
I found it was more profitable in keeping to this important rule because a runner does not have twice the chance of winning just because its mentioned twice.

When testing systems , its an idea to break them up into batches of 150 selections, this gives us an idea of how consistent the selection process can be.


Try not to be fooled into anything working long term with figures any less than this.
One would need at least 3 batches of 150 selections to get any strong indicators as to its future potential.

That's the problem with stagnant systems , they may only have a few bets a month so one would need a data base of at least 4 years to do the research.

Do expect runs of 20 outs in a row , they just happen, its part of the punting process & there is very little one can do about it except stop on a certain number of outs , there is probable nothing wrong with your plan , its just the ebb & flow of the punting process to get to our average expected figure at the end of the year.
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Old 29th August 2010, 09:17 AM
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I'm averaging 20 bets per week so the trials shouldn't take too long...

I can see this performing through the good track racing season but it will be interesting to see how it goes through the winter months... Track condition are not even considered when making my selections.

The more filters the less turn over.... But possibly higher pot. It seems a fine line...

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