Thanks for peoples posts on this thread.

I first really started looking at the Sunday Herald Sun (here in Melbourne) camera charts for the Melbourne racing two weeks ago which includes a 400m photo and a finish photo.

Of course THE VERY NEXT WEEK (last week) they drop the 400m photo which is the one I was interested in. Talk about my usual luck.

I started a black book on the R&S site and some of those horses from 2 weeks ago ran yesterday in Melbourne.

I bet in 4 races with 2 horses picked in 2 of the races. So 6 horses and ended up with 3 winning races for a profit of +16.95 units after commission on Betfair. Winners were Playwright at $9.80, Eraset at $13 and Rock Hit at $1.48.

I think it was total beginners luck but I was hoping to at leas continue analyzing photos from the 400m and finish and trying to work out (IMO) if a horse should be backed or layed next start.

The WA site that has been given out is okay as it says what position a horse is at the turn, etc however it doesn't show how far behind they were at those points.

Does anyone know if there is any free resource that shows the 400m photo and finish like the Sunday herald sun used to?

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Hi The Ocho,

I like to watch the racing replays on the racing network website:

Racing Network Replays

The replays are free for 48 hours and you can watch all Melbourne metro and some Sydney races.

I like to watch the races and note the runs that I like. I then check out their form on the R + S website and if I think they've still got improvement this prep, I blackbook them.

I hope this is of some assistance.

The Schmile

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Hi, If I could find a site that gave me all the information I mentioned when I originally put this thread up, I am sure I could come up with some sort of a rating method. However I cant,...!

If you have a telstra T Box, all the racing for Sydney and Melbourne is archived in it and you can watch replays at any time. I do this all the time in conjuction with using the sectional times and have various formulas to tell me the tempo of a race and how many lengths each horse in the race gained or lost on the winner over the final 600/400/200.

I also backed Eraset yesterday, previous start it was 7th at the 600 and gained 2.5L on the winner in the final 600 to be beaten by 1.3L. The tempo of that race was pretty fair with the first part being run 4% slower than the final 600. Not really a slow tempo but getting towards the slow side. Hence its run wasnt that bad. These are the sort of things I look for. At the end of the day it really comes down to,."do I consider that run good enough to win win/again next start". If yes I b/b it, and back it next start if its within a 28 day period. (used to be 21 but missed out on a couple of good priced winners).

I've been doing this for some years now, had a break, went off on a different tangent, or maybe just spent to much time on the bowling green, whatever, but I got all keen and sectionalised again in February. Since then have had 151 bets all up for 49 wins for a s/r of 32.5 and POT of 36%. Some of those bets were in the same race/s, like yours yesterday, that figure then becomes 49 wins in 115 races, s/r of 42.6 for the same POT.

If this keeps up I am more than happy. It's the only way I could ever make a buck out of racing,

Paul

That's very good going Paul.
Just shows with a bit of independant work, one can beat the crowd and the bookies!

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Thanks CP, for your kind comments,

Paul