Westys,
I agree with Jimmyc_dogs,I have spent a small fortune over the past couple of years on rating services ,information, form sites etc etc. The only one that has been reasonabaly consistant is the service offered by this site, but unfortunately it is saturday only and that is no good to me.
The size of the bet I would have to have on only 1 day of the the week to show me enough profit over a year to live off would scare the living sh** out of me.
I prefer to bet every day and hopefully pinch enough for a days wages and stop.

Davez,
I posted last year what I was doing but was shot down in flames by all the EXPERTS on the forum who cannot believe that someone who hasn't got 5 years of database and doesn,t do 10 hours of form analysis a day can possibly win at this game.
I am STILL doing the same thing although after listening to all the EXPERT posts I began to doubt myself and looked at many other methods.
They ALL failed so I reverted to what I was doing and have been happy ever since.
The only difference now is then I was betting $200 to win 2 points eg $400.
I am now betting $400 to win 1 point plus overs.
My last 3 months.
MAY $14800
JUNE$12800
So far this month $7600.
Whether anyone believes this or not I don't give a damn and I am not going to get in to a bunfight with all the forum experts.
All I can say if anyone is serious about this game you HAVE to bet everyday possible, and pinch a small amount and STOP.
I have been doing this from home, but will shortly be going to every meeting I can possibly get to as I am still a firm believer that if you work from odds as I do NOTHING compares to being at the track.

Cheers

4/1 ay.....hmmm that would maybe go along the lines of up to 20 bets in a row and each bet set up to make say....a $10 profit or even a $5 profit with the setup involving each bet made win or lose working out to this profit on every race ,thus resulting something like...........8 consecutive losses then a winner at 4/1 and a total profit at $90 . these are guidelines at present. All that is needed is the formula of bets ....eg: 1st bet $3.50 2nd bet at $8.00 3rd bet at $14.00 etc... these are based on net profits ..... 20 races and 1 winner consistantly ? I think its possible now that we know the strike rate on the 4/1 shot and maybe combine the last start winner from the top of the list as has been discussed earlier ......I must work hard on this over the weekend....let me know the other pitfalls to watch out for

well Done Kenchar !!..I still reckon backing the picnic races at Wooop Woop is mighty hard to do..But if you can pinch a profit in these meets you must be doing something right..i personally like a detailed form to study..and of course speed maps and videos.
But being at the track does have a distinct advantage especially if you know horses..

I must agree with Kenchar in the sense of taking small amounts and stopping ...after all if there were ways of making the big$$$ on every day of the week it would most certainly require large bets to win small where all u have to do is tip the scales into our favour just ever so slightly .....this i belive is the key. Where the track is concerned obviously is where the odds are because as we all know TABCORP and the others dont take a large enough slice of the pie now do they!!!!!!!! ps...I hear austote.com only tax us 5%

hey mate, if u got the time occasionally would u be able 2 mayb post some selections up, well done if your making a slight profit, cause in the end thats what its about,

jimmy


p.s i agree about making a small profit and stopping, i work about 20 hours a week earning $15 an hour, the last 2 days i have made 2 bets, and profited just under $45 dollars (both place bets) thats an extra 3 hours work in 10 minuts, very very happy

Puntz,
Just curious but are you now going ahead using Mark's odds system.
Jimmyc,
I would genuinely like to post selections but my mind is made up of what to bet as the horses go into the barrier.
That is the problem with what I do, and that is why I got so many knockers before.
How can anyone post gut feelings with 30sec to go.
It is the same as Mark's odds system, it is impossible for him to post selections yet his system makes more sense to me than all the form work in the universe.
This business is about money, learn to read a market, look for something that doesn't make sense, use at least 4 sites 2 bookies and 2 tabs and if something catches your eye that stands out then back it to place if better than $2.

Cheers

thanks 4 the advice, will take it in next time im having a bit of a punt, i also go more on gut feeling aswell, not really into the in depth form reading......

thanks

jimmy

Kenchar,
it's doing ok.

[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2004-07-16 10:06 ]

Wow, and I thought I was doing OK, good one Kenchar !

:grin:

Yes, inpressive, Kenchar. Have been going to ask on the forum as to how you are going. Have been trying to emulate you (with $50.00 base bets). Seems to work much of the time. Thanks.

Its a big step up (for you) to $400.00; but I guess once you snare that winner for the place you are finished for the day. How many bets, on average, does it take, if you don't mind me asking. Cheers :smile: .