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Old 26th August 2005, 08:36 AM
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Much more importantly.... How did they get together in the first place, dammit?


heh heh, easy - to qoute from a favourite movie of mine - "idoit sons & daughters of retired widows"
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Old 26th August 2005, 08:42 AM
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It was missed and has now been removed.
Some of the details have also now been amended.
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Old 29th August 2005, 08:30 PM
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Received the same system offer. Unbelieveable high strike rate and profit. Seems to be based on horses going up in class/prizemoney chasing the big prizemoney.
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Old 29th August 2005, 09:00 PM
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Moderator,

I fail to see how reporting factual occurences, such as the fact that some forum members have been sent material pertaining to a particular system, needs to be edited. These are facts and as such are not slanderous.

Particularly when most states have a consumer affairs website naming these systems as **********. This is a fact, as such i fail to see the problem in reporting these facts so that others can gain from this knowledge.

For those interested please see the following link:

http://www.ocba.sa.gov.au/**********/05_getrich.html
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Old 29th August 2005, 09:49 PM
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Please note Forum Terms of Use.

OZmium, the owner of this Forum, does not employ a team of investigative journalists. OZmium does not know whether accusations are correct OR INCORRECT.

The Forum is set up for discussion of topics in a non defamatory manner.

The Forum is not set up so anonymous members of the public may clearly identify businesses or individuals and then ask whether or not they are operating a ******** etc.

The Forum is not set up so anonymous members of the public may clearly identify businesses or individuals and then say, "This business is operating a ********" ot "The product sold by this business or individual is rubbish etc.."

This invites legal action for defamation.

Posters are welcome to give a very rough outline of what they think might be a ******** etc. or something they are querying, without naming or clearly identifying the business or individual, in order to ask what others think about it.

Clues about the identity of the business or individual such as providing an address, or a name with a few letters missed out, are not permitted.

The Forum is not set up for anonymous people to publish in public whatever they wish about named or clearly identified businesses at OZmium's expense and legal risk.

The South Australian Government lists a number of alleged ********** at http://www.ocba.sa.gov.au/**********/05_getrich.html

However, legal action cannot be taken against the South Australian Government, because it has passed laws protecting itself from legal action. These laws do not apply to businesses like us.

Note their Disclaimer:

"The information contained on this site covering pyramid schemes, chain letters, get rich quick schemes and other ********** is published in the public interest under the authority of section 91A of the Fair Trading Act 1987 (SA).

Under section 91B of the Fair Trading Act 1987 (SA),
no liability is incurred for publishing this information."

Are you willing to cover OZmium's legal costs should OZmium be sued by a clearly named or identified business for defamation?
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Old 29th August 2005, 11:17 PM
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"I KNOW I WILL NEVER HAVE TO HONOR THIS PLEDGE BUT FOR THE DOUBTERS HERE IT IS"
I pledge that if this plan does not return a profit greater than your purchase price within the first 9 months I will exchange it for another plan that has been winning. ....

I sent mine back with a referal,incase they pay commisions.
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Old 30th August 2005, 01:20 AM
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Fair enough Moderator,

I never suggested that people offer opinions. However facts, such as Mr A pty ltd located at No 1, The Street, Goldcoast are offering system 'abc' for $50,000 are facts - not opinion. Opinion could be deemed slanderous whereas facts are not. Name, occupation, address, price and system name or method of selection ARE NOT SLANDEROUS.

Similarly, postings that directly refer to the information contained within the OCBA or similar websites are NOT slanderous, they are - yes you guessed it - Fact.

It is a pity that you have to be concerned with the threat of litigation from these people, whilst completely understandable given the format of the forum, as it only serves to allow them to continue to thrive. Not your problem i hear you say, fair point. However i for one feel that postings that strictly adhere to the statement of fact, as outlined above, should be left alone and not edited. If this means i have to pay your legal costs, well you know what, go ahead and forward all mail from them to me. I would be happy to take them on based upon the principles listed above.
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Old 30th August 2005, 07:40 AM
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I sent an email requesting the system, and if it made half what was stated I offered to pay 10 times the asking cost......still waiting for reply.
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Old 30th August 2005, 01:11 PM
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Fair enough Moderator,

I never suggested that people offer opinions. However facts, such as Mr A pty ltd located at No 1, The Street, Goldcoast are offering system 'abc' for $50,000 are facts - not opinion. Opinion could be deemed slanderous whereas facts are not. Name, occupation, address, price and system name or method of selection ARE NOT SLANDEROUS.

Similarly, postings that directly refer to the information contained within the OCBA or similar websites are NOT slanderous, they are - yes you guessed it - Fact.

Comment:

1. Unfortunately we do not know for certain what is "fact".

2. Other posters will automatically make comments/opinion about those alleged "facts", opening the possibility for legal action.

3. Our legal advice is to take measures as we have to prevent this from happening in the first instance.
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