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Old 12th October 2010, 11:40 PM
bryz55 bryz55 is offline
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Default a wise old man

a wise man tells me... this was back in the 70's... he bet one horse per race three meets a week for ten dollar bets. over the 12 month period he turned over 10000 and returned 13200. his main form line was race times.

so i question anyone who has knowledge? who breaks track records ? is it the very top quality open class horse or is it any horse who just puts in a fast run on the day?

u can measure track conditions but what about overall day conditions?

how bout the following... eg. five race program belmont saturday.
race1 1200m trk rec. = 1.09.46 winner goes 1.10.66
race2 1400m trk rec. = 1.21.13 winner goes 1.23.08
race3 1000m trk rec. = 56.14 winner goes 57.35
race4 2000m trk rec. = 2.01.47 winner goes 2.04.13
race5 1650m trk rec. = 1.38.17 winner goes 1.40.03

so the gaps between records and actual are... 1.2s, 1.95s, 1.21s, 2.66s, and 1.86. total of 8.88 seconds but an average of 1.776s. so would it be fair to say that any horse that won with a time within 1.776s of the record would of been a good win and any winner that won with a time more than 1.776s out side the record would be a not as good win.? eg. the winner of race 1 and race three was a better win than the winners of race two and four. or would one argue that the shorter the distance the closer to the records the horse will get?

would this be another way to measure conditions for the day? todays average conditions are 1.776seconds outside the records regardless of actual posted track conditions. ...(obviously this cant help for the day but may help in analysing race times and comparing runners for future reference)or would this analysis simply reflect that wednesday class horses go slower than saturday class horses? and its not the day conditions just the animal?

this is like 50 questions in one so feel free to comment on any part you like...

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