Very interesting thread Michaelg, me being particularly interested in place betting and any new ideas. My problem has always been (like many others) as soon as those filters come in to increase the S/R the action is reduced again.

I'm working on one at the mo which produces a bet in EVERY RACE and stands at break even, I'm just going through the process of applying 1 filter at a time to see if I can tilt it into profit without cutting out too many bets, I will post the idea when I can get it into profit.

I am always amazed at some of the place divvies (differences) when backing best tote , its not uncommon to see 1st tote its not uncommon to see 104c on one tote and 1.70, 1.80 etc on another.

By the way, I have a data base covering 3000 favs, all opened at LESS than 2-1,

Best tote = break even, so applied a minimum reqd. price like so: win odds divided by 4......x 1.5 (i.e. 50% overlay) and then applied it to BF odds available,

the result? a bit disappointing, about 1.5% POT needs more work.