I've been looking at various posts and ratings and all types of free ratings and preposts etc etc.

Something that strikes me, is that over thousands of races, they tend to all end up at the same place. Of course there are differences in order and rated prices, but the end result appears to be very similar.

For example Timeform top two is the same strike rate as first and second favourites, as are free premier ratings.
Neither of them have any information about the dollar return, or the overlays.
This seems to be common with nearly all ratings.

Surely the test of any accurate ratings method is lay value in the overbet horses to rated price, and back value in the overlays to rated price.

I'm yet to see any ratings anywhere, that can beat the final betfair price for accuracy.
Reason being, that ratings cannot incorporate what we don't know.

Most of the time the winners and value if you take top fluc are from those under the rated price.

So are we back to systems again, which identify value regardless of market support?

Any ideas welcome...

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