I cringe when i hear a horse i like are specials or late mails, sure they have a good strike rate but their odds are slashed and they are rarely value. And on an earlier post someone said back a place if two tipped it + late mail, i dont like punting to win my money back, it is a joke how many people listen to these tips. If you are not willing to do the form involved and just back other peoples tips, why bet? it cant be fun, and they're never value. Shane Templeton however is very good, by far the best tipster in Melbourne, you'd be better off taking his tips rather then the Late Mail.