Woof43....i would have to agree on your observations....if anyone has had a look at the trifecta pools lately they are larger than the place pools most times...with less people winning them....with more and more information out there you would have to think that more and more people are getting it right in relation to form study....can anyone give me stats on the % of winners under $10 or the % of winners from the top 5 weighted horses....this shows you that the form is already done for you....i know it is great to beable to rate a race and find errors and have those errors salute at good prices....but i would have to say it is harder to find those winners....i have been doing ratings for over ten years of some sort or another and things have changed....we have to move in another direction if we are to maintain our edge...i do belive that there is a mathamaticle solution to all this and thats where i have been heading of late....yes i know you can't back every runner in the market to win but there are other ways i am sure of that.