And 2 tubs of marge stops a dishlicker every time, used all the time, a few runs full of marge, odds go out and out, time is ripe, no marge, big odds and wins.
I know I'm getting off the subject, but what I'm trying to get through is this business is about money, not the love of dogs or horses, and thats why I Admire anyone that can consistantly win doing form as there is so many unknowns out there that the best form student can ever know.