As with Raw, I do not, have never and will never take notice of the tipsters in the paper. I very occasionally buy the Sportsman, but usually not, very very occasionally Best bets, I never have the Herald-Sun or the Age or Australian etc, so 19 weeks out of 20 I wouldn't have the first clue what they've tipped anyway.

I think we can safely compete against the tipsters even if we're putting them in on Friday, it'd be really good to see how we went, we just all have to agree not to alter our tips as a result of whatever the tripe served up in said paper's is.

Could part of the records we keep of us as a consensus be the s/r of winners in top selection and also in top four?