i would like to exand my letter to the flat stakers.i do not apologize in any way for my previous comments as i believe you flat stakers are working on invalid information .the true strike rate inreality for the various odds ranges are1/1=46pc.10/9=47pc5/4=40 11/8=40 6/4=37 13/8=35 7/4=32 15/8=33 2/1=30 9/4=29 5/2=26 11/4=23 3/1=25 13/4=20 7/2=19 15/4=21 4/1=19 9/2=16 5/1=14.ie 6/4 chances should win 40pc but they dont 2/1 should win 33pc but they dont.you will have to be a substantially better handicapper than most to make money at flat stakes and how many in any honesty can make claim to that..how many good methods have been lost because they didnt win at level stakes.or thrown away because of misinformation.proffessionals like myself spend their lifetimes reading learning and experimenting.gambling is the science of mathematics.please forum members get the right information.get commnsense punting by dedman or flutters by robson.try racebooks australia.as for me i will try to pass on quality info to the battlers out there but by god it can be frustrating.