just a quick post.
as a bit of an exotic player(yes bang my head etc)
what is the forums thoughts on this betting.
the pools are small but non fav pay outs look ok?
i like the exacta standout.
but!!!!!

just a thought!

rooburger,

Here's an idea you might like to try. If you think you have a surefire placegetter, you could perhaps think about taking it as a banker in an any2 bet with the field. Then if your horse runs a place, you hope that a roughie lobs into one or both of the other placings. You could use it on any race, but I think fields of 8-10 are best because there's not too much expense (especially if you only use a 50c unit). And you can also do this with 2 horses as bankers. I was VERY keen on the Canterbury meeting today, so I decided to play around with it there. I picked out 5 races where I thought there were two very strong place chances. This is how I went today:

R2-1 Klarissa (Out: $3.50 In: $7.10)
R2-5 Miss Celia (Out: $3.50 In: $5.35)

R4-1 Canny Princess (Out: $4 In: $18.25)
R4-2 Nice Surprise (Out: $4 In: $28.50)

R5-1 Restless Wind (Out: $4 In: $8.55)
R5-7 Arunluck (Out: $4 In: $9.55)

R6-1 Afraah (Out: $4.50 In: $22.10)
R6-10 Long Stem Red (Out: $4.50 In: $0)

R7-4 Canny Louis (Out: $4.50 In: $0)
R7-8 Genghis Khan (Out: $4.50 In: $13.35)

Out: $41 In: $112.75

Now, remember to win these banker any2s you just have to pick a placegetter, so it's basically the same as having a place bet except you can possibly end up with a larger dividend. As a comparison, if you had simply bet $4 for a place on all of those 10 runners you would have got these results:

Out: $40 In: $49.60

So, why not try it out on paper for a while. Remember, try to stick to smallish fields where you are very confident of being able to pick a placegetter.

thanks Sportz food for thought!
i think any 2 is under utilized as a back up bet to win only.
will give it bit of a go after a trial.

can someone tell me what an any2 bet is
i have never heard of it
i am in N.S.W is this a service that other states offer
thanks in advance
geoffro

Yeah, not available in NSW as far as I know. An Any2 bet is where you simply have to pick two horses that will finish in the placings. It's like a quinella, but they don't have to finish 1st & 2nd. You also win if they finish 1st & 3rd or 2nd & 3rd. Any2s are available on Unitab (Qld,SA,NT), but you can also do the same thing in Victoria. It's called a 'Duet' down there. Not sure if they have them in WA or ACT.

Firstly well done Sportz
I had a play around with your idea and wondered how you would have gone
using your two selections in a rover trifecta and came up with for a full unit the following
race 2- out $36 In $112.20
race 4- out $42 In $556.90
race 5- out $42 In $156.20
race 6- out $48 In $0
race 7- out $48 In $0
Total out $216 In $825.30

There is substantially more risk outlay etc in the tri's obviously
cheers

Rabbitz,

Yeah, certainly good results there, but as you said more risk. I didn't actually hear what happened in race 2 but I know that in the other 2 races where I got both placings, I was on the right end of very close photo finishes for 3rd. If I had lost both of those, I would have made a loss with the trifectas, but still made a handy profit on the any2s.

Any 2's or duets will definitely be coming to NSW this year.

Well worth a look.

Good Punting

We don't really have any fancy bets here....only the fav numbers and thats just rubbish....just traditional bets

did a little testing on a small sample.
looks okay.
a few rules helped.
do not stand out fav.
try not to have more than 5 runners (fav okay here,) for the other place getters- this gives better return per $ invested.
for a place bettor this gives a much better return in a small field.
as i said only a samll sample from recent races around 200 in all with 8 to 10 runners.
greyhounds were surprisingly good.

i think this form of betting is untapped.

the quest continues.