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Old 19th December 2002, 11:29 AM
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PERTH CUP (Group II)

To be run WEDNESDAY JANUARY 01, 2003

CARDINAL COLOURS 56.0
EXIT LANE 55.0
GILLESPIE 54.5
ALIBI BAY 54.0
HONOR LAP 54.0
SO CANNY 54.0
TUMERIC 54.0
AS YOU WOULD 53.5
TIME SIGNAL 53.5
ZAHEED 53.0
BOLD MIRAGE 52.5
MOONRISE 52.0
NAVY BLUE 52.0
HYDROMASTER 51.5
LAKESIDE SONG 51.5
LANOLIN 51.5
MR. TAMBOURINEMAN 51.5
OUR ANNABEL 51.5
SPECIAL JESTER 51.5
TRUE STEEL 51.5
ZERO POINT 51.5
ALPINE TROOPER
AYGUIDO 51.0
BATTLE WIND 51.0
CHARMING STORY 51.0
COSSACK ANGEL 51.0
COUNT KONAN 51.0
DANANMATT 51.0
DELA VENTOSA 51.0
ELVIS RULES 51.0
FRIENDLY MANNA 51.0
FUJIAMA 51.0
GILL'S DREAM 51.0
HIGGINS GOLD 51.0
KARADAN 51.0
KING ELVIS 51.0
KING JUGAH 51.0
MERLOS 51.0
NOBLE SHEIKH 51.0
NOBLE TOUCH 51.0
NOW'S GOOD 51.0
OUR PARTISAN 51.0
PLAY THE WHISTLE 51.0
POZIERE 51.0
REBATE 51.0
SOUTHLAND HIGH 51.0
SUPER MOSS 51.0
THORNY ROSE 51.0
THUNDER HAWK 51.0
TUART'S PRIDE 51.0
UNO JACK 51.0
WATERS RISING 51.0
WHO'S HUSSAR 51.0


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Old 20th December 2002, 08:41 AM
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I see that many of these are goin around in the CB Cox Stakes this Saturday. Would I be correct in suggestin that Finito & Honor Lap are well placed under the weight scale, Perth Placegetter?

Of the eastern states brigade on Saturday, would fancy Zero Point over Merlos. Merlos could be nearing the end of his current campaign whilst Zero Point has had just the 4 runs since a spell, was a last start 4th in the Queensland Cup (albeit a pretty weak field) and I see has the services of Paul Harvey.

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Old 20th December 2002, 10:21 AM
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I THINK THAT IN THE COX STAKES THAT TUMERIC WILL BE VERY HARD TO BEAT GREAT RUN LAST START LOOKING FOR THE GROUND BE VERY HARD TO BEAT.
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Old 20th December 2002, 11:02 AM
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Yes Paddy, Finito & Honor Lap are very well treated under the WFA scale. So too is Tumeric.

Others also not badly treated include So Canny, Alibi Bay & Bold Mirage.

Notice that the winner of the Queensland Cup - Time Signal, has been nominated for the Perth Cup. Saw the race, and although a weakish field as you have suggested Paddy, was very impressed with the run of Time Signal.

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Old 21st December 2002, 07:14 PM
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Thank you very much Sandgroper, lovely trifecta. More Xmas shopping, yahoo!! :grin:

Merry Xmas Sandgroper. X
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Old 22nd December 2002, 08:11 AM
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Also a big thankyou from me Perth Placegetter!

Got half the tri ($944.60) & also a slice (flexi) of the first4 ($28480.20), thanks for the lead-up.

Enjoy your Christmas Sandgroper, and let's hope we (hint) can kick off the new year on a winning note (Perth Cup - another hint!) :wink:
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Old 22nd December 2002, 10:17 AM
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And a merry Christmas to you too BettyBoop and Paddy! Glad you had a win.

The addition of blinkers for Bold Mirage did make a difference – went to the line more truly. Have doubt about him getting the 3200m – now doubting just a little less.

Thought the runs of the first 4 (Bold Mirage, Tumeric, Alibi Bay & Super Moss) yesterday were all good pointers for the Cup.

Also liked the runs of Exit Lane, Dananmatt & Our Annabel. Zero Point was an OK run, Honor Lap was most disappointing, although was found to be in season on arriving at the course.

Have done a bit of a review of the Cup field and to be honest this looks a year that one of the eastern states contenders could take the Cup back home with them. But this really depends on who comes over & how they settle in.

Happy to give a bit of a summary on the local brigade over the next week, if anyone is interested. I’ll kick off today, starting from the bottom.

Let me know if you want me to keep working through the list.

WHO’S HUSSAR – 7YO who has raced mainly on the Kalgoorlie and Esperance circuits. Two recent runs over 2400m have produced a 3len 5th after leading early & an inglorious last after straining a tendon to the near fore. Looks outclassed and most unlikely to make the final field.

WATERS RISING – 7YO who earlier raced in SA. Best rating is over 1800m back in November 2000. Best distance range has been 1800m-2400m. Current preparation rating around 1.75len below best. Only a rough chance.

UNO JACK – 7YO who surprised all and sundry with a win over 2400m mid-week at Ascot 2 starts back, at 2nd run back after a 6 month’s spell. Ran on well that day, and registered his best rating. Most recent run well beaten (some 8lens) over 2400m to Higgins Gold, after being ridden nearer the lead. Only a rough chance.

TUART’S PRIDE – 6YO who’s best rating is over 2200m in January 2002.
Best distance range 1800m-2400m. Current preparation rating around 2.5len below best. Last start fought on for a 3len 4th to Higgins Gold after being ridden near the lead. Does best when allowed to settle back in the field, and kept for a late run. On best, slightly better than a rough hope.

THUNDER HAWK – 5YO former eastern states galloper who has had only a handful of starts in WA. Best rating in WA is over 1800m (earlier this month). Last start disappointing 8th over 2400m, beaten some 5len behind Higgins Gold, after showing some early dash. Looks outclassed over this distance, on what we have seen.

THORNY ROSE – Last start winner (class 2) over 2200m at Bunbury. Maiden winner over 1500m at Pinjarra last month. Looks outclassed and most unlikely to make the final field.

SUPER MOSS – 8YO, who ran a bottler of a race yesterday to finish 4th in the CB COX Stakes (2400m) after leading for most of the race. Drops 7kgs on that run. Best rating is over 2400m back in July 2000. Yesterday’s run was not far off his best and certainly his best run this preparation. Big doubt over the 3200m (well beaten 5len in the 2001 Cup)but if he can get a big enough break, who knows. Better than a rough hope.


SOUTHLAND HIGH – Maiden who has been racing mainly at Northam. Best run 2.75len 3rd over 2200m (class 3) at Northam back in August. Looks totally outclassed.

REBATE – 6YO who’s best rating is over 1600m in November 1999. Best distance range is 1600m-1800m. Has run some good races over the 1800m when ridden near the lead, Gone no further than 2200m , beaten about 3len on each occasion. Looks outclassed over this distance.

POZIERE – 4YO who’s best rating is over 1800m (last month). Followed that run beaten 2.5len over 2200m when battled on. Last start beaten 7len to Higgins Gold (2400m) weakening over the final stages. Looks outclassed over this distance.



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Old 22nd December 2002, 10:55 AM
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Hi all had a big bet on tumeric yesterday thought his run was a great perth cup trial.Watch out for time single in the perth cup this bloke is very smart saw him win his last start in brisbane he will run a strong 3200 very very hard to beat also backed steel prince yesterday so was a good day.But as i have said before very hard to get a line on how horses are going now that they have taken eric the clocker off the morning race show over their i am really betting blind as we get no mounting yard mail over here in qld any thoughts sandgropper do you watch the track work or do you know were i can get it from any help would be great thanks mate.
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Old 23rd December 2002, 09:11 AM
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PLAY THE WHISTLE – 5YO best rating 2400m December 2000. Best distance range 1600m-2400m. 2200m is the furthest she has gone for a long while. Looks outclassed over this distance, however if she can lead & can get a big enough break, who knows - a rough hope.


OUR PARTISAN – 5YO maiden best rating over 1800m last month. Best distance range 1600m-2100m. Looks outclassed and most unlikely to make the final field.

NOW’S GOOD – 6YO best rating 2200m in July 2000. Yet to find any form at 5 starts since a 2 year spell. Totally outclassed on current form.

NOBLE TOUCH – 4YO who did early racing in NSW. Best rating over 1400m in September. Placed over 2200m a couple of times last month. Well beaten over 2400m to Higgins Gold last start after racing wide throughout. Better than a rough hope.

NOBLE SHEIKH – 7YO who originally raced in SA. Best rating over 2400m last month. Tends to run on but well beaten over 2400m last two starts. A rough hope.

KING JUGAH – 5YO front running stayer with some good recent form over 2200m / 2400m. Well beaten in the CB COX stakes on Saturday when he contested the lead with Super Moss. Big doubt over the 3200m but if he can lead & get a big enough break, who knows. A rough hope.


KING ELVIS – 5YO best city rating over 2200m in April this year. Last start winner class 4 2200m at Pinjarra beating King Jugah. Not raced beyond 2200m. Looks outclassed over this distance.

HIGGINS GOLD – 4YO best rating last start over 2400m mid December.
Lightly raced up and coming stayer, winner of 3 of last 4 starts including 2 wins at Ascot. One of the better chances, races like the extra distance will suit.

GILL’S DREAM – 6YO best rating over 1500m in April 2000. Best distance range 1500m-2200m. Races on the pace. Looks outclassed over this distance.

FUJIAMA – 8YO Originally from Victoria. Best rating over 2200m in November 2000. 5th in the 2001 Perth Cup beaten 4.25len by Lottila Bay. 4 starts back after a spell. Reasonable run on Saturday over 1800m when ridden at the back of the field. Better than a rough hope.


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Old 23rd December 2002, 11:32 AM
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Looks like the field has already been trimmed back. Latest odds courtesy ozbet.


CARDINAL COLOURS $26
EXIT LANE $16
ALIBI BAY $10
HONOR LAP $16
SO CANNY $12
TUMERIC $6
TIME SIGNAL $7
BOLD MIRAGE $5
MOONRISE $12
MR TAMBOURINEMAN $10
OUR ANNABEL $31
SPECIAL JESTER $151
ZERO POINT $12
ALPINE TROOPER $201
AYGUIDO $201
BATTLE WIND $81
CHARMING STORY $151
COSSACK ANGEL $81
COUNT KONAN $201
DANANMATT $10
DELA VENTOSA $151
ELVIS RULES $201
FRIENDLY MANNA $201
FUJIAMA $151
GILLS DREAM $201
HIGGINS GOLD $16
KING ELVIS $21
KING JUGAH $101
MERLOS $101
NOBLE SHEIKH $201
OUR PARTISAN $201
PLAY THE WHISTLE $151
POZIERE $201
REBATE $151
SOUTHLAND HIGH $201
SUPER MOSS $21
THORNY ROSE $151
THUNDER HAWK $21
TUARTS PRIDE $31
UNO JACK $201
WATERS RISING $201


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