rik
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Hey puntz,

There seems to be some sort of issue as I still have not received any emails from you at support@ozmium.com.au


Kindest Regards,

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- Rikki
OZmium Support

NOTE: All posts are my personal comments which may not be the view of OZmium Management.

Marcus,
I neither have the time nor the vibe to answer your comment.
But excuse me for being the one to remind those that are not aware of internet happenings if they go unchecked for the overzealous advertising guru's that prey on internet insecurities,your where abouts, your habits, and probably your personal details if given half a chance.
But if I got paid for knowledge of my internet whereabouts, well that's different.But ya don't get paid much by the advertisers for sending bets, it seems.

I am the "customer" is my choice of reference to be able to choose what comes and goes upon my internet connection and I should not have to pay for anit-virus,firewalls,advertising spy codes blockers and all the rest of it.
I would rather buy more tool type software or more $$ per hour towards my programers to do what they do towards my racing.


As far as paying for things on this forum, yes I have bought some products, software infact, and further more, it really is nuyabiziness.
Other forms of "payment" is shear entertainment.
I think I am funny !! or insane and paranoid, but I don't change my user name ! If i did, I may call myslef "verbalfingerprint" !
either way, I can larf, can you ?
Most of my posts are just that if it ain't about racing ,a larf in a monty python type of scenario.

My racing is serious though, it's money and time invested, others say it's gambling.
Start a new thread if ya want to take the issue further.

I have replied to Rikki, he will see where I am coming from, and possibly reply by email to.

On a serious note,there does not seem to be much on the original question of this thread, "staking plan for dutch betting".
I believe there ain't one,having the formula is one thing, applying the sum of the formula is another.

Hi all,

Looking at topic this i dont see it going anywhere so ill put my little bit in.

Hows this look ?

If one would target say the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th fav, leaving out the 1st favourite if it is paying less than 4 on the tab, dutch these four and create your own odds therfore allowing for last minute fluctuations, ie

5 min before jump.
2nd fav showing 6, make its odds 5,
3rd fav showing 7, make its odds 5,
4th fav showing 8, make its odds 6,
5th fav showing 9, make its odds 7.

Now:
outlay 100 units,

2nd fav 28 units
3rd fav 28 units
4th fav 23 units
5th fav 20 units

so if they come in and beat the fav,

2nd fav 168 units
3rd fav 196 units
4th fav 184 units
5th fav 180 units

Am i playing with fire or would a decent staking plan make it feasable, ive looked at a fair few races and often (look at qtab 100 pointers) the 1st fav goes under, so if we can either leave it out or wait till there is a race that the first fav is around 5, well i am open to your laughs and any serious comments.

Hope you all had a good new year and christmas.

Cheers
Dingoboy.

Dingo Boy, maybe someone can come up with some stats about how often the 2 3 4 or 5the favourite would salute if the fave was $4 or less. I f it was $3 or less I would leave the race but if it was $4 or more I would still leave the favourite out as their win percentages would be significantly reduced I think.

Gday Dr.

Exactly my thoughts, it would be interesting if the percentage of the 2nd, third, forth and fifth favs would make it viable to leave out the first, im sure someone has the stats, ive played with this and some races the return is in the area of 200%, BUT NOT EVERY RACE.

Cheers
Dingo

Hi!
In my database there are app.140 000 horses with a starting price of <= $4.00 (Vic TAB).
Out these were 38 000 winners. Not a lot really!
Cheers!

Firstly, to management, I am surely not going to be posting much due to the fact your stupid updated forum does not allow me to have the firewall active nor can i use MY choice of web browser to log in and stay logged in, so to hell with your advertising **** and this cookie syndrome. There is no compromise, I am the "customer" !!

Secondly, if anyonwe wants to discuss this topic any further without compromising their choice of intertnet browsing by lowering security standards, ( mine are high) then leave an email address to be contacted, and be prepared to to send me you selections ( 3 per race), and I will prove what a correctly set up hedge can do.
There is no way it will ever be posted here. But, yes it can be done correctly, and extremely accurately.

The spreadheet method is only the start, as i mentioned before, to punt and to hedge properly, forget spreadsheets, the only use a spreadsheet has is prototype stuff for programmers to view YOUR proof of the calculation, the rest gets programmed.

Hence my previous posts on a all out project for a free downloadable program with plug-ins that universaly fit from the various software vendors and/or backyarders.
This topic keeps going around and around in circles, kind of get's dizzy at times, specialy at this time of the year !

well puntz i manage to 'hedge' properly & i use a spreadsheet to assist me to do so - the entire process is as automated as i can possibly make it & having put a fair amount of thought into it all i cannot see how the use of any software package could enable me to do the job any better (unless of course it can pick the winners for me ).

i recall now your previous discusions on plugins etc & of course like many here would be more than interested to test any product that evolves.

btw the above is not a critisism, probably all i am trying to say is that where there is a will there is a way.

Stugs. no not all taken as critiscm.
All I am saying is, to hedge and to make a system cycle with a goal to eliminate as many mouse cliks as possible, then yes, one has to think it thru.
Some use spreadhseets and stop there, for me where the spreadsheet ended the basic calculations, it went to program. The potential a program can do is vast at the very least.
Problem is, a punter has to learn to program and the programer has to learn to punt.
Once it meets in the middle, well, guess that's why we still here debating the issue.
I KNOW exactly what I want a program to do as a punter.
A programmer/s knows it to !
Solution: ??