Got a new system and here are the rules:

1. Consider only upcoming blacktype races
1a. NO 2yo or 3yo races!
2. Consider only horse's last five starts
3. Consider only wins in those last five starts
4. Assign points only to metro wins (for each win) as outlined in the table below:

G1 - 16
G2 - 8
G3 - 4
LR - 2
Open - 1

Of course, it comes up with the favourite lots of times, but dutch betting the top two or three can sometimes throw out a surprise result in a Listed Race where a horse won a G3 or G2 four or five starts ago. (I think it was Topsy who who uses something similar).

This is a fun system, with limited bets, and a quick rating system which is great fun if you don't have time to do the form for a lot of races and would like some bets on the weekend.

Interestingly, it actually shows a profit, if used right

Depending on prices, I like to back the top two or three and also take Quinellas with the other rated horses

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The obvious criticism will be that a horse that ran three consecutive 2nds in a G1 race will be outranked by a Listed or Open winner.

Correct!

This is on purpose to bring up the better odds.
I have always preferred to back a Group 2 winner than a Group 1 placer
For my money, I don't want an overhyped G1 placer who is struggling to win in that company and usually under the odds, I prefer a G2 winner, who might be over the odds and "capable" of winning a G1.....possibly.

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There are no qualifying races on Saturday, as 2yo and 3yo blacktype races are not considered.

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Saturday Blacktype Magic

Eagle Farm Race 7

2 Smart And Mighty - 3 points
10 Grecolo - 2 points

That's it for Saturday, pay to have a little on both eachway depending on prices.

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Hi Chrome,

I'm a bit of a fan of your ideas and like the sound of this, but can I ask a silly question please ? How do you define Blacktype races - I just thought it meant Group and Listed Races but the three form guides I've looked at for the Ascot Handicap tomorrow just lead me to believe it is an Open Handicap.
To your knowledge is there a comprehensive list of Blacktype races that we could keep in our diaries ?

Cheers

Hi Mancunian,

I class blacktype as all Group and Listed races.

I believe tomorrow's race is actually a Listed Race, not an Open.

I don't have a list, I just go by the virtual formguide to select races and pickout qualifiers.

This system does not include 2yo or 3yo blacktype races though

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Thanks CP - I follow with interest

BINGO ! I found a comprehensive listing of all Group and Listed Races.

It is actually last years but very helpful and it confirms the Ascot Handicap is a Listed Race and also shows up VRC Winter Championship today (Flemington Race 6 - which is indicated in todays form guides).
It also lists the Belmont Classic for the equivalent of todays date last year, but can't see that in the form guide.
If anyones interested its in PDF format at www.classicbloodstock.com.au

So I'll now have a look at CPs rules for Flem Race 6 - " so much to do and so little time "

Cheers

Thanks for the list Mancunian, but r6 Flemington is a 3yo+ Listed, so I don't include those myself, but by all means have a look and a small wager, but this tends to work better on the rock solid races.

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See what you mean CP, only came up with

#1 / #2 / #3 with 1 point each in a field that doesn't look as good as a Country Cup. Will just watch with interest.