Noms / weights

No Horse Trainer Weight Penalty
1 Sans Frontieres (Ire) Jeremy Noseda 57 2.0
2 Shocking Mark Kavanagh 57
3 Metal Bender (NZ) Chris Waller 56
4 Campanologist (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor 56
5 So You Think (NZ) Bart Cummings 56
6 Zipping Robert Hickmott 55.5
7 Shoot Out John Wallace 55
8 Mr Medici (Ire) Peter Ho 55
9 Illustrious Blue (GB) William J Knight 55
10 Tokai Trick (Jpn) Kenji Nonaka 54.5
11 Americain (USA) Alain de Royer Dupre 54.5 0.5
12 Descarado (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 54 1.5
13 Monaco Consul (NZ) Michael Moroney 54
14 Profound Beauty (Ire) Dermot K Weld 54
15 Zavite (NZ) Anthony Cummings 54
16 Harris Tweed (NZ) Murray & Bjorn Baker 54
17 Master O'reilly (NZ) Danny O'Brien 54
18 C'est La Guerre (NZ) Robert Hickmott 54
19 Manighar (Fr) Luca Cumani 54
20 Buccellati (GB) Tony Noonan 54
21 Doctor Fremantle (GB) Lee Freedman 54
22 Triple Honour (NZ) Chris Waller 54
23 Bauer (Ire) Luca Cumani 53.5
24 Vigor (NZ) Danny O'Brien 53.5
25 Red Ruler (NZ) John Sargent 53.5
26 Mourayan (Ire) Robert Hickmott 53.5
27 Herculian Prince (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 53.5 2.0
28 Alcopop Jake Stephens 53.5
29 Holberg (UAE) Saeed Bin Suroor 53.5
30 Zabrasive (NZ) John O'Shea 53
31 Drunken Sailor (Ire) Luca Cumani 53
32 No Wine No Song Kevin Moses 53
33 Jessicabeel (NZ) John O'Shea 52.5
34 Capecover (NZ) Patrick Payne 52.5
35 Faint Perfume Bart Cummings 52
36 Linton Robert Hickmott 52 1.0
37 Precedence (NZ) Bart Cummings 52 1.5
38 Dariana Bart Cummings 51.5
39 Once Were Wild Gai Waterhouse 51.5
40 Eastern Aria (UAE) Mark Johnston 51.5 1.0
41 Above Average (Ire) Lee Freedman 51.5
42 Sterling Prince (NZ) Wayne Hillis 51
43 Moudre Ciaron Maher 51
44 Pompeyano (Ire) Saeed Bin Suroor 51
45 Valdemoro Tony Vasil 50
46 Persian Star Robert Smerdon 50
47 Berlioz (NZ) David Hayes 50
48 Phaze Action Robbie Laing 50
49 Get Up Jude Kevin Moses 50
50 Exceptionally (NZ) Terry & Karina O'Sullivan 50
51 Ajhar (USA) Lee Freedman 50
52 Becqu Adoree (Fr) Luca Cumani 50
53 Nothin' Leica Cat (NZ) Anthony Cummings 50
54 Maluckyday (NZ) Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes 50
55 Cedarberg Pat Carey 50
56 Basaltico (Ire) Bill & Symon Wilde 50
57 Mr Charlie (NZ) Peter G Moody 50
58 Rundle Robert Hickmott 50
59 Sea Galleon Colin & Cindy Alderson 50
60 Count Encosta John P Thompson 50
61 The Hombre John Bary 50
62 Avienus Mark Webb 50
63 Apprehend Tony Vasil 50
64 Right Fong David Balfour 50
65 Miles Above Denis Daffy 50
66 Montahlia (NZ) Michael Kent 50
67 Golden Charmer Dan O'Sullivan 50
68 Niptious Danny Curran 50
69 Zantelagh Mark Kavanagh 50
70 Muir (Gb) Robert Hickmott 50
71 Saint Encosta John P Thompson 50
72 Stanstill (Ire) Michael Kent 50
73 Jeuneys End Allan Fitzgerald 50
74 My Bentley (NZ) Michael Kent 50
75 Crocodile Canyon (NZ) Howard Mathews 50
76 Home On A Wing Anthony Cummings 50
77 Gothic Crown Todd Balfour 50

I'd be interested to know people's thoughts on Shoot Out after yesterday's Cox Plate. His last 3 runs have indicated to me he wants further and $21 for the Cup looks tasty at this stage. Has won to 2400m but the 3200 is always a query. In saying that I thought it was a super Cup trial.

So You Think's run was deceptive from a Cup perspective. He took off at the 800m, so as Arnold advised he was probably entitled to peak on his run before the line. Bart will have him rock hard fit with one more run in the Mackinnon and he seems to settle so beautifully these days, I'm loathe to tip against him.

Sifting through the Cup chances, I'd be wary of sacking Alcopop after one average run on a bog track in the Caulfield Cup. If he gets conditions up to slow, he'd have to be a massive chance with 53.5 kilos.

In saying all that, Shocking's run in the Caulfield Cup was MASSIVE.

Ah, the beauty of the racing game......

bart is still looking to run so you think in the mackinnon..before a melbourne cup start..

..if so..will he be flat chat in the mackinnon..?

..and how well will he back-up for the cup..potentially his 3rd start in 11 days..

I'm also interested to see how So You Think will run in the Mackinnon and especially where he will settle in the run. Bart's team said 'he's won every race this prep that we've set him for'. Will they simply give him a training run in the Mackinnon and we see him 'get held up at a vital stage'? Class may still prevail, though I very much doubt Bart would want to have him sitting on the speed if they do go ******** for leather up front.

Very, very interesting...

..corey brown reckons that shoot out is crying out for flemington & the 2 miles..

I feel the same way. His best runs have always been on a big track. Came home well in the Cox considering the fast last 600m. He just seems to love racing Shoot Out, & Im convinced the High Chapperals will run the distance.

In alphabetical order

1 Above Average (IRE) (Lee Freedman)
2 Alcopop (Jake Stephens)
3 Americain (USA) (Alain de Royer Dupre)
4 Bauer (IRE) (Luca Cumani)
5 Buccellati (GB) (Tony Noonan)
6 C'est La Guerre (NZ) (Robert Hickmott)
7 Campanologist (USA) (Saeed Bin Suroor)
8 Capecover (NZ) (Patrick Payne)
9 Cedarberg (Pat Carey)
10 Count Encosta (John P Thompson)
11 Dariana (Bart Cummings)
12 Descarado (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse)
13 Drunken Sailor (IRE) (Luca Cumani)
14 Eastern Aria (UAE) (Mark Johnston)
15 Exceptionally (NZ) ( Terry & Karina O'Sullivan)
16 Faint Perfume (Bart Cummings)
17 Gothic Crown (Todd Balfour)
18 Harris Tweed (NZ) ( Murray & Bjorn Baker)
19 Herculian Prince (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse)
20 Holberg (UAE) (Saeed Bin Suroor)
21 Illustrious Blue (GB) (William J Knight)
22 Jessicabeel (NZ) (John O'Shea)
23 Linton (Robert Hickmott)
24 Maluckyday (NZ) ( Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes)
25 Manighar (FR) (Luca Cumani)
26 Master O'Reilly (NZ) (Danny O'Brien)
27 Metal Bender (NZ) (Chris Waller)
28 Monaco Consul (NZ) (Michael Moroney)
29 Moudre (Ciaron Maher)
30 Mourayan (IRE) (Robert Hickmott)
31 Mr Charlie (NZ) (Peter G Moody)
32 Mr Medici (IRE) (Peter Ho)
33 My Bentley (NZ) (Michael Kent)
34 No Wine No Song (Kevin Moses)
35 Once Were Wild (Gai Waterhouse)
36 Precedence (NZ) (Bart Cummings)
37 Profound Beauty (IRE) (Dermot K Weld)
38 Red Ruler (NZ) (John Sargent)
39 Sea Galleon ( Colin & Cindy Alderson)
40 Shocking (Mark Kavanagh)
41 Shoot Out (John Wallace)
42 So You Think (NZ) (Bart Cummings)
43 Stanstill (IRE) (Michael Kent)
44 Tokai Trick (JPN) (Kenji Nonaka)
45 Valdemoro (Tony Vasil)
46 Zavite (NZ) (Anthony Cummings)
47 Zipping (Robert Hickmott)

I took $31 e/w a couple of weeks back for shoot out for the cup thought that looked good value at the time I also put on a little $10 e/w bet on cedarberg today at $331 I know he has a tough chance making the field but if he does there are worse chances out there that is for sure

I meant to mention I still feel that Monaco Consul is a chance in the race his run in the coalfield cup was good took off 1000 from home and was well and truly entitled to die on his run won't take the $19 on offer right as I reckon better will be on offer race day but definitely worth an e/w ticket

shocking has to be a huge chance but what about linton only lightly raced and under robert hickmott whos team is flying at the moment amercain is unbeaten for last four not a bad run in geelong cup 1st up from a spell overseas dont know about so you think has he got enough miles this prep for 2 miles against proven stayers