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Old 5th August 2004, 12:26 PM
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On 2004-08-05 11:24, maverick1993 wrote:
In my trifectas i save the last spot.for the best barrier horse..regardless of what it is paying..
Top line 3 (my selection,Highest Zip, Favourite)
2nd and 3rd line 6 (As above, next 2 in betting, then best barrier)
if my horse is the favourite
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Top line 2 (my selection,highest Zip)
2nd and 3rd line 7 (next 4 in betting,then best barrier)



Sorry Mav, I need to get up to speed on the lingo. but what is Highest Zip??

Thanks
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Old 5th August 2004, 01:57 PM
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The 'Zipform' ratings from The Sportsman form guide.
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Old 5th August 2004, 02:05 PM
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Thanks Sportznut
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Old 5th August 2004, 10:46 PM
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seections today
Townsville
R1. 4 yumiko 20 (unpl)
Fav 1 Galacino 50 (1st)
Tri 30
4-1-5
4-1-5-2-3-7
result 1/5/2
1 Galacino 105
Tri 15

R2. 5 Another twinkle 20 (3rd)
Fav 2 Magic Owl 50 (1st)
Tri 30
2-5-1
2-5-1-4-8-9
result 2/8/5
Magic Owl 120
Tri 60

R5. 5 Port wine Brandy 35 (unpl)
Fav 7 Obi 35 (unpl)
Tri 30 (no 10 caught dancing)
result 10/14/13

R7. 10 time to Change 40 (unpl)
Fav 2 Canvas 30 (unpl)
Tri 30 (no 11 varmint)
result 4/11/5

R8. 4 theartre King 45 (unpl)
Fav 2 Mr Mandrake 25 (3rd)
tri 30 (no 6 doodle daadle)
result 6/8/2

mornington
R2. 5 fall of rome (scratched)

R6. 4 Parkes 20 (3rd)
Fav 1 Tycoon Diva 50
Tri 30
4-1-7
4-1-7-3-5-10
result 1/5/4
1 tycoon Diva 110
Tri 15

Goulbourne
R5, 9 Claretaum fav 70 (1st)
Tri 30
9-1
9-1-4-11-7-5-13
result 9/1/4
9 Claretaum 190
tri 20

outlay today 700
returns 635

loss today 65
Bank 13,862

Only the 1 winner today from 7...my savers were working today ,,the trifectas collected were only small divis today....all in all a very hard day.
Used Unitab ratings today...didnt help any but also didnt make a difference . Will continue to use the Zip raters for now.


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Old 6th August 2004, 09:37 PM
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Selections Saturday
Eagle farm
R2. 5 Craiglee Path 40 (UNP)
Fav 2 He wears The Crown 30 (UNP)
TRI 30 (No 7 yarrow)
result 7/1/3

R3. 1 Cafe Francis 40 (4TH) (flashed home)
Fav 7 Penor 30 (UNP)
TRI 30 ( No 6 Im Alice)
result 6/4/8

R4. 7 just Browsing 45 (2ND)
Fav 1 Tsingtao 25 (UNP)
TRI 30 ( No 10 Take Strike)
Result 10/7/3

R5. 5 Counter Agent 50 (UNP)
Fav 3 MIdnight Avenue (1ST)
Tri 30 (No 10 Shes All Gold)
result 3/11/10
3 Midnight Avenue 100

R6. 10 Words Of Magic 50 (1ST)
fav 2 Devil 20 (4TH)
Tri 30
10-2-1
10-2-1-7-5-18
result 10/5/18
10 Words Of Magic 350
Tri 2233

R8. 11 San carlo Fav 70 (1st
Tri 30 (no 2 Compete)
Result 11/2/9
11 San Carlo 250

Randwick
R1. 3 Bush Honey* 40 (1ST)
Fav 6 Evilina 30 (UNP)
Tri 30
3-6-7
3-6-7-4-1-5
Result 3/1/7
3 Bush Honey 340
Tri 125

R2. 4 Sutton review* 55 (1ST)
Fav 1 MollyHawk 15 (2nd)
tri 30
4-1-2
4-1-2-5-6-3
result 4/1/2
4 Sutton Review 275
tri 40

R4. 5 Auri 45 (UNP)
Fav 7 Catriegn 25 (1ST)
Tri 30
5-7-8
5-7-8-1-4-6
result 7/4/8
7 catriegn 110
Tri 100

R7. 12 Ago (UNP)
fav 2 Sunshine Sam (2ND)
Tri 30 (No 4 Keeping the faith)
(keep safe 7 Pentelikon) (1ST !!!!!)

R8. 9 To be Fair 45 (UNP)
fav 5 Wagstaffe 35 (UNP)
Tri 30 (no 7 Cannadoo )
result 7/2/8

Caulfield
R2. 2 llanga fav 70 (1ST)
Tri 30
2-3
2-3-7-6-5-4-1
result 2/3/5
2 LLangs 350
Tri 35

R3. 7 Strategic madness* 45 (UNP)
fav 8 Zankel 25 (2ND)
Tri 30 (no 13 Special voyage)
result 5/8/13

R4. 4 Republic Fav 70 (1ST)
Tri 30 (No 8 Encosta Legend)
result 4/2/8
4 Republic 330

R6. 7 Kehunga (scratched)

R7. 9 Ashtaroth fav 70 (UNP)
Tri 30 (NO 16 vegas Show)
result 15/14/16
(safe 14 Sarah Michelle) (2ND)

R8. 5 Holding Fav 70 (2ND)
Tri 30
5-1
5-1-2-3-6-10-4
result 1/2/5
Tri 175

Adelaide
R3. 4 Sparkling Now 35 (4th)
Fav 6 Dawn Almighty 35 (1ST)
Tri 30 (No 8 Miss Satr chase)
result 6/8/7
6 Miss Dawn Alighty 105

R6. 4 Brooklyn Affair fav 70 (3RD)
tri 30 (NO 5 Oak Express)
result 5/1/4

R8. 1 Full Spec 35 (2ND)
Fav 12 Wavefront 35 (UNP)
Tri 30 (no 10 Chestnut king)
result 3/1/10

Gold coast
R4. 10 Hoofer 35 (UNP)
fav 1 Excuisitly 35 (UNP)
tri 30 (no 9 Gonzo)
result 3-2-9

R6. 3 Tax dodge fav 70 (UNP)
Tri 30 (No 7 Maizy May)
result 7/8/5

toowoomba
R2. 1 Tusmani Star 35 (UNP)
Fav 2 Jeromes Star
Tri 30 (no 4 Stormy sepoy)
result 2/7/4
2 Jeromes Star 105


Out lay today 2200
returns today 5023

profit today 2823

Bank now 16,685

I"m on some sort of fairytale run at the moment. Some nice winners there could of been even better with some unlucky 2nds . Great Tri at Eagle farm thanks to the best barrier again.
I reckon i'm 1/4 way there to recouping all my loses over the last few years .. :wink:



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Old 7th August 2004, 10:18 PM
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Selections Sunday
Sunshine Coast
R3. 3 Abu Simbel Fav 70 (3RD)
Tri 30
3-10 (10 Top unitab rater) first time
3-10-11-4-2-7-15
Result 10/11/3
Tri 80

R6. 7 Miss Alyta (UNP) 40
Fav 1 Mighty Icon (3rd))
Tri 30
7-4-5
7-4-5-1-2-11
Result 5/11/1
Tri 270
(Keepsafe 4 kalinga Metal) (UNP)

R7. 4 Corporate 45 (UNP)
Fav 5 Just Awe 25 (1ST)
Tri 30 (NO 12 Heroism)
result 5/8/12
5 Just Awe 100

Murwilimba'
R4. 11 Miss Shinko fav 70 (UNP)
Tri 30
11-10 (10 Another unitab toprater)
11-10-1-2-7-12-5
result 10/2/1
Tri 92

R6. 11 Khanperra Fav 70 (UNP)
Tri 30 (No lord Reggae on top)

outlay today 500
returns 542

profit 42

Bank now 16,727

Just when i thought i should be backing my selections outright.. my backups today were spectacular.
I picked no winners from 5 and only 1 fav saver came in. But the Unitab raters were excellent ..Im not sure how they've done in other races but they saved me today. Maybe i should be using them full time instead of using them only when sportsman isnt out.

Any thoughts on who you guys prefer...just hard to change something thats been so succesful lately..




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Old 8th August 2004, 06:29 PM
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Just the one today
Woop Woop (CR)
R5. 5 Jack's Gold Pot 25 (1ST)
Fav 1 Port Wine Brandy 45 (UNP)
Tri 30
5-1-2
5-1-2-3-6-8
Result 5/3/2
5 Jacks Gold Pot 325
Tri 40

outlay today 100
returns 365

profit 165

Bank 16,892

Nice winner today..but looking at other results a good day to sit and watch.

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Old 8th August 2004, 07:28 PM
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Mav,

I've been watching both sportsman and unitab for a few weeks now and they are much the same with some good spells and some bad. Here is some figures for saturdays over the last couple weeks.

SPORTSMAN FAVOURITES
SELS 139
WINS 25
PLACE 73
W/RETURN 98.6
P/RETURN 131.9

UNITAB 100 RATERS
SELS 140
WINS 18
PLACE 65
W/RETURN 67.1
P/RETURN 108.4

I hope this helps. I will be keeping all unitab and sportsman ratings in the future so if you need more info down the track let me know.

Just to add something else for you to think about :smile:.

UNITAB 98 RATERS ( That are barrier 1-8 )
SELS 43
WINS 11
PLACE 20
W/RETURN 66.3
P/RETURN 47.0

Maybe someone else has a couple year database with unitab ratings that could run these longer but the 98 Rating one looks ok.



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Old 8th August 2004, 09:09 PM
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Thanks RacingNovice,,,,it would seem that Sportsman have the edge...i think what im doing now,,,using Zip when i can and unitab the other times is probably the way to go...i suppose i could always use PPN raters ?
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Old 8th August 2004, 09:22 PM
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PPN raters? Im new to this and don't know all the sites or ratings places as yet :smile:. Or 90% of racing terms lol.
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