I must say well done i am new to betting and today and i thought i would put you to the test today i backed all your tips for a place but i am whishing i went e/w or win with 3 1st 1 2nd and 2 not paying at all.

musicblitz was just unlucky in the last 350

how would you say gets the best results win place or e/y

where or how do you ket your rateings or would you need to kill me if you told

i did back a coupleof you tips sunday a noticed you got the try in one of dogs

would you happen to have anything for ballarat tonight?

Ballarat trots are in the Gambling Forum section with the Greyhounds.

Yeah.

As for how to use them, well, it's up to you. I don't really like telling people how to bet. Watch them for a few days and see what works best.

One thing I would suggest is that over time, it probably works out better backing the top rater for a win rather than for a place. And also, I think it probably works out better to back both of the top 2 raters for a win rather than just back the top rater each way. But as I said, it's up to you. Have a look at them for a while. And have a look at the multis. With flexi-betting now, it's possible to box up all the runners above the line and you can get some good wins that way. It certainly would have been profitable doing that today. I think a combination of win betting and multi betting is probably the best way to go.

By the way, as a general guide, I think the horses to concentrate on mainly are those with a rating of 15 or more. Any horse rated 15+ is considered to have a good chance of winning, horses rated 30+ a very good chance, and those rated 45+ are basically considered specials.

Thank You


You are a real Gent

March 19:


CANT 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
45 . $2.2 . 8 VAL DE LOIRE
18 . $5.6 . 5 FRENCH FANTASY
16 . $6.3 . 6 YOU'RE DREAMIN
12 . $8.3 . 4 TUCSON
4 . $25.0 . 2 TRESOR
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3 . $33.3 . 10 SECORD
2 . $50.0 . 9 CANTSHE
2 . $50.0 . 3 MYSTERY QUEEN


CANT 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 12 SCOUTING WIDE
16 . $6.3 . 9 MANTOVA
15 . $6.7 . 3 LASKER
12 . $8.3 . 1 TURN AND BURN
7 . $14.3 . 10 NIKIFOROS
5 . $20.0 . 4 AFTADAKA
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5 . $20.0 . 11 MR JAYDEEFORTUNE
2 . $50.0 . 6 GALILEO COLOURS


SAND 2
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 1 CLASS APART
17 . $5.9 . 8 MUFASA
14 . $7.1 . 6 ACAMAR
11 . $9.1 . 3 DANZIN HEART
10 . $10.0 . 2 JUST THE ROCK
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7 . $14.3 . 4 TRIPPIN' THE LIGHT
2 . $50.0 . 5 DELAROUZE
1 . $100.0 . 7 EMPOWERING


SAND 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
41 . $2.4 . 2 SHIBBOLETH
19 . $5.3 . 1 ASTRAL DANZA
12 . $8.3 . 4 PORT ISABEL
12 . $8.3 . 13 PONTE DE LIMA
6 . $16.7 . 6 DONNA ROSSA
5 . $20.0 . 9 WE'VE GOT ISSUES
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4 . $25.0 . 12 MONKEY SEE
3 . $33.3 . 10 MOONSONG
1 . $100.0 . 3 AMERICAN MORSECODE
1 . $100.0 . 5 WHIST DRIVE


SAND 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
35 . $2.9 . 4 DOUBLY SURE
15 . $6.7 . 6 BIDGEE BARNEY
14 . $7.1 . 13 GRAND DESTINY
12 . $8.3 . 9 CAPTANPAULI
8 . $12.5 . 5 SOME ARE BENT
5 . $20.0 . 7 KAISERSHIP
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3 . $33.3 . 12 MEZZEGIE
3 . $33.3 . 3 DE KOLTA
3 . $33.3 . 1 INCENTATE
3 . $33.3 . 11 THISONESONME
1 . $100.0 . 10 RUNAWAY WALK


SAND 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
25 . $4.0 . 8 ROK POSTA
20 . $5.0 . 2 VICARAGE GATE
15 . $6.7 . 12 LAST MAN OUT
12 . $8.3 . 9 STRADIVAAR
10 . $10.0 . 7 EMBANK
8 . $12.5 . 3 RYOBITON
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6 . $16.7 . 5 BOULTON
3 . $33.3 . 4 TERRAIN
2 . $50.0 . 10 RANSOM WILLY
1 . $100.0 . 11 SWEET BEA

On days like this, it wouldn't matter how you used the ratings.

Fair dinkum, I thought it looked like a tough day today, but NOT THIS TOUGH!

For anybody who was using the ratings today, all I can say is sorry.

Another tough day!!!


March 20:


HAWK 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
30 . $3.3 . 6 SO BEWITCHING
20 . $5.0 . 5 KING'S FIRST
16 . $6.3 . 3 WALKING OR DANCING
15 . $6.7 . 4 HESPERIA
12 . $8.3 . 1 GRAND TRAVERSE
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7 . $14.3 . 7 MOSSURMI
2 . $50.0 . 9 UNIVERSAL PACK
1 . $100.0 . 8 PRINCIPATUS


HAWK 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 3 MOUNT VERDE
19 . $5.3 . 4 NOTFORPUBLICATION
15 . $6.7 . 5 HUSSENREIGN
11 . $9.1 . 7 SMOKIN' JEWEL
10 . $10.0 . 2 SACRED ORDERS
4 . $25.0 . 8 KARALEE
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3 . $33.3 . 6 QUEEN AND COUNTRY
1 . $100.0 . 10 FULLY ARMED


B'RAT 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
44 . $2.3 . 2 MASTERSTEN
16 . $6.3 . 1 FASILENKO
11 . $9.1 . 10 ECHO OF A CHANT
10 . $10.0 . 15 PSAPPHA
7 . $14.3 . 14 TINKER BELLA
5 . $20.0 . 7 RONDAHL
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3 . $33.3 . 9 MELBACHENKO
3 . $33.3 . 11 UNDER THE CLOCKS
3 . $33.3 . 16 TOO MUCH SUN
1 . $100.0 . 17 FEDERALIST
1 . $100.0 . 5 PLAY AGAIN


B'RAT 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
30 . $3.3 . 2 RED COUPE
30 . $3.3 . 4 GOLDEN PAPILLON
28 . $3.6 . 1 REDWOOD PARK
7 . $14.3 . 3 SYLVAN O'REILLY
3 . $33.3 . 5 ROUTE DE SOIE
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2 . $50.0 . 7 BONDED
2 . $50.0 . 11 MAXIMISATION
1 . $100.0 . 6 OUT THE WAY


M VAL 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
58 . $1.7 . 6 MORETON BAY
14 . $7.1 . 3 DRUMBEATER
11 . $9.1 . 11 HELLS LANE
8 . $12.5 . 12 IN AN INSTANT
4 . $25.0 . 10 CHIEFCOMINGFIRST
3 . $33.3 . 4 JOSE AMIGO
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2 . $50.0 . 7 STAR KASEY
1 . $100.0 . 2 DERRINGER
1 . $100.0 . 1 CLASSIC BENBARA
1 . $100.0 . 9 SHAG ON A ROCK


M VAL 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
42 . $2.4 . 8 LA GOULUE
20 . $5.0 . 4 MR EISENHOWER
15 . $6.7 . 1 CHOISISM
7 . $14.3 . 9 MISS HIJINX
7 . $14.3 . 5 DANE THE RAVE
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5 . $20.0 . 2 FENTON HALL
4 . $25.0 . 10 DREAM TIME HUNTER
2 . $50.0 . 11 TEESHOT
1 . $100.0 . 12 NOT STIRRED

March 22:


DOOM 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
41 . $2.4 . 1 RAMPANT LION
31 . $3.2 . 5 MAJORCA
18 . $5.6 . 3 TEN TO COUNTDOWN
4 . $25.0 . 7 SIR SENSIBLE
3 . $33.3 . 4 HELLO POSSUMS
2 . $50.0 . 12 MASTER STRATEGY
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1 . $100.0 . 6 SCENIC WELLS
1 . $100.0 . 11 ROCK OF MUFASA
1 . $100.0 . 8 SKYLEDA


DOOM 7 (BRIBIE HCP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 3 RASMUSSEN
26 . $3.8 . 1 BROMIDE
12 . $8.3 . 4 NOBLE GAZE
10 . $10.0 . 6 COCKTAIL SUPREME
7 . $14.3 . 5 BLOOD 'N' BONE
4 . $25.0 . 10 SEQUESTRATE
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2 . $50.0 . 2 RAGS TO RICHES
1 . $100.0 . 7 KUTALO
1 . $100.0 . 8 BOLD REASON


RAND 4 (SURROUND STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 2 SLIDING CUBE
30 . $3.3 . 4 OCCURRENCE
15 . $6.7 . 5 MIMI LEBROCK
5 . $20.0 . 1 CAMARILLA
4 . $25.0 . 7 VECCHIA ROMA
4 . $25.0 . 3 TAN TAT DE LAGO
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3 . $33.3 . 9 ANNA BEK
1 . $100.0 . 6 CHINCHILLA ROSE


RAND 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
50 . $2.0 . 14 MUSKET
18 . $5.6 . 7 ELEMENT
11 . $9.1 . 6 O'CRIKEY
10 . $10.0 . 11 KICK 'N CHASE
6 . $16.7 . 10 TWIN WING
5 . $20.0 . 12 YASUMORI
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1 . $100.0 . 5 AUSBRED KING
1 . $100.0 . 8 THE CHIEFTAIN
1 . $100.0 . 9 TOMMIFRANCS


RAND 6 (THE GALAXY)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
37 . $2.7 . 2 MAGNUS
17 . $5.9 . 11 HURRIED CHOICE
16 . $6.3 . 4 KEEN COMMANDER
11 . $9.1 . 6 TYPHOON ZED
10 . $10.0 . 12 FRITZ'S PRINCESS
4 . $25.0 . 1 BENTLEY BISCUIT
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3 . $33.3 . 13 GAMBLE ME
2 . $50.0 . 3 BLACK INK
2 . $50.0 . 9 STRONG CHOICE
1 . $100.0 . 7 CENTURY SERB


RAND 7 (CHIPPING NORTON STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
37 . $2.7 . 8 TUESDAY JOY
21 . $4.8 . 3 SNIPER'S BULLET
16 . $6.3 . 5 CASINO PRINCE
12 . $8.3 . 6 HONOR IN WAR
7 . $14.3 . 2 DESERT WAR
7 . $14.3 . 10 ARLINGTON
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3 . $33.3 . 11 OUR MOSSTIQUE
1 . $100.0 . 9 GUILLOTINE


RAND 8 (LIVERPOOL CITY CUP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
22 . $4.5 . 10 FRIDAY CREEK
20 . $5.0 . 11 BOBADAH
20 . $5.0 . 9 DANLEIGH
15 . $6.7 . 6 GERMAN CHOCOLATE
15 . $6.7 . 1 DIVINE MADONNA
5 . $20.0 . 12 HOYSTAR
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2 . $50.0 . 8 SONIC QUEST
1 . $100.0 . 2 DEVIL MOON
1 . $100.0 . 3 MALCOLM
1 . $100.0 . 7 MUTAWAAJID
1 . $100.0 . 14 MR UBIQUITOUS


RAND 9 (WIGGLE STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
55 . $1.8 . 1 HOT DANISH
10 . $10.0 . 6 SHIRL PEGASUS
10 . $10.0 . 13 LIKE ME WILD
8 . $12.5 . 5 VEGAS SHOWGIRL
7 . $14.3 . 11 MATCHLESS
4 . $25.0 . 7 ROSE OF SHARON
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3 . $33.3 . 9 HAIRY
2 . $50.0 . 12 HELLUVA PARTY
1 . $100.0 . 10 GREY STREAM
1 . $100.0 . 8 DELORAINE
1 . $100.0 . 4 BANC DE FORTUNE
1 . $100.0 . 3 ROSA'S SPUR


CAUL 2
RT . ODDS . HORSE
47 . $2.1 . 1 EL PAUJI
22 . $4.5 . 7 O'MARIE
10 . $10.0 . 3 ELECTRIC PUHA
10 . $10.0 . 6 IDA DORIS
5 . $20.0 . 2 BLESSED
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4 . $25.0 . 4 MYALANSKY
3 . $33.3 . 8 FRISCO JESS
1 . $100.0 . 5 DANEVADE


CAUL 3
RT . ODDS . HORSE
52 . $1.9 . 4 VIGOR
16 . $6.3 . 7 NEUGINE
13 . $7.7 . 3 ARAZAMATAZ
12 . $8.3 . 5 ZABDUED
4 . $25.0 . 1 MEGA BOSS
2 . $50.0 . 8 ABLE DRAGON
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1 . $100.0 . 9 EASTER BUNNY
1 . $100.0 . 2 ALLANTHUS
1 . $100.0 . 6 CLUZIEL


CAUL 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 4 KING HOAKS
21 . $4.8 . 7 BEECH HURST
16 . $6.3 . 2 BOWHUNTER
13 . $7.7 . 1 NORTHERN POINT
6 . $16.7 . 8 ON A PROMISE
3 . $33.3 . 6 SHADOW
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2 . $50.0 . 5 CALL ME SYD
1 . $100.0 . 10 HIGH INTENSITY
1 . $100.0 . 9 UTTERLY FANTASTIC


CAUL 5 (EASTER CUP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
33 . $3.0 . 6 ABOUT FACE
18 . $5.6 . 4 LIKE IT IS
16 . $6.3 . 1 DOURO VALLEY
14 . $7.1 . 3 JUKEBOX JOHNNY
8 . $12.5 . 2 SAND SWEEPER
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7 . $14.3 . 5 SARATIME
6 . $16.7 . 9 MANGONUI
1 . $100.0 . 7 COME FLY WITH ME


OAKB 7 (OAKBANK STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
31 . $3.2 . 1 IDALOU
21 . $4.8 . 6 ZIPANESE
12 . $8.3 . 5 THE CHUNKSTER
10 . $10.0 . 3 ALLSTAR
10 . $10.0 . 2 EL MAZE
9 . $11.1 . 12 ROUGH CHANCE
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4 . $25.0 . 4 PALACE GENERAL
3 . $33.3 . 10 FLYING FISH
2 . $50.0 . 11 LETMEENTERTAINYOU
1 . $100.0 . 8 PREDESTINED


ASCT 3 (GIMCRACK STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
56 . $1.8 . 1 DANERIP
22 . $4.5 . 2 ROSA DELAGO
10 . $10.0 . 3 BRAVA FORTUNE
5 . $20.0 . 9 JUST MARIKA
4 . $25.0 . 8 ISHIBABE
3 . $33.3 . 11 TIMELY QUEEN
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1 . $100.0 . 4 PURE FIRE
1 . $100.0 . 5 DANE SMILE
1 . $100.0 . 7 MOST SECRETIVE


ASCT 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
33 . $3.0 . 5 WILD FRANKIE
22 . $4.5 . 4 THREE AMIGOS
22 . $4.5 . 1 HE'S SMOKIN'
14 . $7.1 . 8 LOVE A BUZZ
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6 . $16.7 . 9 MALACHY
4 . $25.0 . 10 TYCOON CUT
1 . $100.0 . 6 SUPERSCENIC


ASCT 6 (EASTER STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
42 . $2.4 . 1 MARASCO
34 . $2.9 . 9 UNIVERSAL RULER
10 . $10.0 . 2 ROYAL LOTT
7 . $14.3 . 10 ZHAMENKA
3 . $33.3 . 6 I COMMAND
3 . $33.3 . 4 DAKA'S GEM
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2 . $50.0 . 7 KOUNTHEKASH
1 . $100.0 . 5 DANNY BLUE


ASCT 7 (MELVISTA STKS)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
35 . $2.9 . 1 YURO
22 . $4.5 . 2 FAMOUS ROMAN
20 . $5.0 . 3 VEROSSI
10 . $10.0 . 7 BEST BEWARE
5 . $20.0 . 8 PROART
4 . $25.0 . 16 ST PIERRE
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2 . $50.0 . 6 SCENIC BULLET
1 . $100.0 . 10 AXTEL
1 . $100.0 . 11 SEYMOUR SNAKE
1 . $100.0 . 18 KEY DYNASTY
1 . $100.0 . 13 AITCHISON


ASCT 8
RT . ODDS . HORSE
60 . $1.7 . 8 LAMBTON CASTLE
16 . $6.3 . 2 KALEIDO
10 . $10.0 . 4 HALO SONG
10 . $10.0 . 9 LEXICON GOLD
2 . $50.0 . 7 SKY SPIRIT
2 . $50.0 . 14 RANCHER'S BOY
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1 . $100.0 . 13 LA SOEUR NOIR
1 . $100.0 . 1 GOLD WELLS
1 . $100.0 . 6 REACTIVE THUNDER

Geez, what a tough start for the top raters!

I REALLY must learn to ignore fillies and mares races.