From what i have seen too, I could not be putting any hard earned on the horse. It has had plenty of chances to clean up lesser fields than this one on Saturday??? But who I am to question probably the most astute trainer in the business.........

Feel the same way TJ, either I'm going to look like some sort of guru, or very silly indeed
However, I maintain that at the expected odds, Altius is absolutely no value at all, even if he manages to poke his very expensive nose through at the right time.
Having said all that, if he wins, he won't be winning anything better.
However, I'll probably be one of the first in line when he goes to stud

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I did find that very interesting Chrome - the things you don't see if (a) you aren't looking or (b) don't know what to look for. On another note, can you confirm your thoughts on this gear change: Noseroll First Time

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The noseroll has a similar effect to blinkers, ************s, cheekpieces etc. It is a big plus. They are used to make the horse concentrate on where he is going rather than stargazing. He needs to concentrate and look over the nose roll at the ground in front. Especially good for ungelded stallions who put their mind elsewhere at this time of year

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Thanks mate. That is incredibly helpful detail.

Cheers LG

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I am pretty sure it helps them carry there head at a better angle for racing, and stops them throwing their head up as you point out also, for what it's worth I love to see a horse striding out with no gear at all, they look an awesome thing!!

Best TJ

If only they had fitted a bit of kit to me i.e. before the onslaught of progeny.

LG

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Certainly does that too TJ, in fact I use a shadow roll when teaching young horses how to arch their neck, rather than pulling on the neck with side reins.
Far kinder on any horse.

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Altius, still carries a lot of money, and I can't fathom it.
He almost started Betfair favourite!
Another laclustre run, and Chris Waller must be delusional if he thought he ever had any chance of "blowing them away".

I had a very nice lay bet on him, so can't complain, but it leaves me wondering, what about the owners, what about the punters, why is this money going on every start?

Completely baffled.

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