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Old 8th September 2006, 09:27 PM
Chrome Prince Chrome Prince is offline
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Well it's all over now!

Chika has no idea?

Mate until you answer a few questions sensibly, I think chika makes a great deal more sense.
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Old 8th September 2006, 09:35 PM
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TheEasyRun,

Getting agro aren't you and I don't know why.
All I wrote was the way I bet, at least I've posted that much.
You started this thread with some claims and I and a lot of others were very interested, and I actually defended you, but now regret that as you have posted zilch, nothing, just crap with zero meaning for anyone here.
Just a load of waffle.
Post something that even resembles what you started this thread about.

I don't think you can.
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Old 8th September 2006, 10:01 PM
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Yes chika I got very agro when I saw that the posts by myself and others were edited by Admin.

Which may have led me to misunderstand this line you wrote:
"The only thing I would like to comment on though is that it is impossible to turn a $4000 bank into $50,000 in a year,that is just so wrong."

It was as far as I got when reading that post. I apologise mate.
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Old 9th September 2006, 08:06 AM
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How about just getting on with it.
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Old 9th September 2006, 09:15 AM
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Well now he is back, lets all just kick-back and let the bloke finish. We have nothing to lose [except perhaps a few myths] and there are quite a few here who would like to read what the easyrun's point/method is before the end of the spring carnival !
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Old 9th September 2006, 09:17 AM
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" Unfortunently, what with the time constaints involved of finding $7 shots to tip to unsuspecting battlers, and standing at the mounting yard sticking pins in horses, it will take a few weeks to set it up.
Plus this is not yet the right time of year to have a full Punting Stable. "

You would have read this on a previous post syllabus, and like most of what I have written, it too has been ignored or misquoted or edited by the Admin.

The next three pages contains Selection and Staking in detail, it is actually already staring you lot in the face already, but I can see I will have to explain everything in detail then answer silly questions and misquotes.

It was to be posted up when the stable was nice and full, on the same morning as the first lot of bets were posted up pre-race and got under way.
Sometime after next weeks racing, with a couple of video study days after that.

You see....... proof must be given, and given till a $4,000 Starting Bank grew to an $8,000 hieght (the limit) and then on to $50,000 profit, which it would hit before next winter started.

But......I can see very clearly that I would be wasting my precious time, as I have come to the conclusion that most on this forum are the worst kind of mug punter there is.........the Educated Twit.

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Old 9th September 2006, 12:53 PM
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Well finally, at the end of the trail ...a website sales pitch for members !!!

Good luck to you easyrun as we need more racing forums here in Oz., but I fear you are not long for this world [propunter] as a member.

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Old 9th September 2006, 01:52 PM
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A mish mash of rubbish which was purely a drive for advertising his own forum.

You guaranteed the owners of this site, that you had no commercial interest.

This "educated twit" saw it coming a long way from home, I picked it as a wind up from the start. Despite the flack I copped and the erroneous mathematics which some seem to defend, it was quite obvious that even the topic starter does not believe in his own maxims.

On the one hand he says that all the education in the world cannot make you a good punter, and calls anyone who disagrees with him educated twits.

The intelligent (not educated) punter would welcome debate and be able to address it in an intelligent manner.

The unintelligent punter would start getting agro and namecalling, because he has no solid base to stand on, other than using other people's sites for free advertising.

At the end of the day, this so called uneducated master of the game has enlightened nobody with anything.

He was never going to, it was obvious from the very beginning.

How is this master of the game going to make $52,000 per annum when "it's the wrong time of the year".
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Old 9th September 2006, 01:54 PM
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Old 9th September 2006, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince

1. So called big money "professonal punters" really are not. They are men propped up by money from their buisnesses, inheritence or high incomes, or from stake money hits from horses they own.
In essence they are big money gamblers, not pro punters.
They all have one major thing in common.....they did not get their money from the punt, and if they had to start from scratch and punt up a liveable betting bank they would soon starve!


Agreed. Usually they started with big money and know how to handle it.
So, although they are now pro, started with a big bank behind them.


2. It is a falacy that a massive turnover is needed to show profit over time.
This is for men who have that poor of a selection and staking method, that a very large turnover of money is needed to capitalize on a very skinny profit margin. In reality these type of punters last only as long as other money (or imagination) is proping it up.


Agreed. In fact there are many different strategies to pro punting. Some have very high turnover (volume of bets), but the most common is very few targetted bets. It's very hard to have a high volume of bets in a negative market and come out in front. Exotic punters are the only real exception, but then they must have a massive bank behind them to endure the losses.


3. It's quite false that a very high starting bank of $10,000 to $30,000 or more is needed to start a betting bank off. And false also is the thinking that the bank must be turned over and over like it was inside a washing machine.
The fact is a betting bank must be protected from heavy turnover!


This is where I disagree to a certain extent. One can start small and build it up, but if one wants to start making a steady income to cover the bills etc, there's no way a $4,000 bank will cut the mustard to provide a liveable income. Even if one was lucky enough to get 20% POT per month, and it's not going to happen every month, that's only $800 per month utilizing the full $4,000, one bad month and bang! One must be able to cater for long runs of outs and that run depends on strike rate. I agree with your point on turnover in relation to straight out betting, exotics are a little different.


Here is another fact, if the average man clears $30,000 a year in his regular employment, then to match that in punting earnings, he can start off with a bank as little as $4000. And still keep his job. Nirvana for the average bloke on the punt would be around $50,000 a year.....roughly $4000 to $5000 a month. A $6000 starting bank for that is plenty.


What sort of POT are you basing that on, I strongly disagree.


4. It goes against any real common sense that an ** School Teacher, Mathematition, Engineer, Accountant or any highly educated induvidual, can come up with a numerical/class/time rating system that leads to first a steady income, then on to great wealth.
It simply cannot be done.


Are you saying an uneducated person stands a better chance or experience and research has more weight?


why you should never except odds on any bet unless it can return you over $7 to the dollar.


Again, strongly disagree. The weight of bias against longer prices means you have to be far better than the market suggests. Backing the shorter end of the market has less bias against the punter and is far easier to overcome.

Not picking on you, and a lot of what you have written is excellent, I just disagree with some points.
Look forward to your response and further parts to your article.


Picked it from the start?

Not from where I sit.

And if you did why did you with others provide all this "any publicity is good publicity" by fanning the flames?

If he was allowed to say his piece without disruption this would not have dragged out for so long.
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