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Old 31st October 2004, 11:36 AM
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I suggest that the reason people believe they are doing just dandy at the roulette wheel,and other forms of gambling,is that we tend to remember our winning sessions and suppress our losing episodes.
And that is the reason us unsuccessful gamblers choose not to keep a running record of our financial situation.
We are in fact kidding ourselves!
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Old 31st October 2004, 12:24 PM
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The fact that ive walked away more times wiht wins and losses at roulette points out to me that I must be doing something right. I remember losing at roulette,this was when ive actually reached my limit and decide dto leave but in my head it just said one more and i started breaking my rule of bets
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Old 31st October 2004, 02:28 PM
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No, the people who know roulette can't be beaten with any of the methods you have suggested because roulette is a negative expectation game. You ARE playing a neg EV game. This is a fact. The longer you continue to play roulette, the more likely it is that the house odds will overcome you.

Making sessions shorter doesn't make a difference. Changing your goals doesn't make a difference. If you are playing a neg EV game, you are likely to lose, simple as that. You guys really are fooling yourselves.
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Old 31st October 2004, 02:54 PM
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Mr J... It confuses to me as to why you frequent these forums. Roulette has the best odds going. What you are saying is that you cannot win by gambling. You are allowed to have an opinion, so why isn't anybody else? If you don't like the game, I suggest that you don't partake in it. If somebody says they can beat it, who are you to say they are lying?
Another question, if you can't win at gambling, why frequent a forum called 'smartgambler'? You are contradicting yourself.
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Old 31st October 2004, 03:07 PM
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Moeee, thats why its very important to keep a running record of all gambling if trying to profit. If punters do not keep a running total losing money musnt be a big concern. Someone out to have fun perhaps add some spice to watching sport may forget about running totals because its more work and maybe not a very good read. There is good information lying in our previous results.

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Old 31st October 2004, 06:33 PM
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2 things.
To Mr BJ.Mr J did not say you can't win at gambling.It seems the very opposite is the case as he professes to be financially dependant on his ability to win at Gambling.
He said you can't win long term at roulette.
Know the difference!

And Fernando,I think people who can control themselves and treat Gambling as entertainment and therapy,are the real winners.Regardless of whether they actually are profitting financially.
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Old 31st October 2004, 07:30 PM
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For someone to claim that they make a living off gambling and at the same time say nobody can do the same playing roulette is quite questionable. He has a right to an opinion as does everybody else.
If somebody comes here and claims that they can beat roulette they must be wrong because Mr. J disagrees?.....
All forms of gambling are the same. They are designed so the punters lose. This doesn't mean however, that all punters lose. If you can beat one form,, why not another...?

What makes Mr. J so special anyway? He says this and that and everyone just bows down and accepts it... Roulette provides the best odds of all gambling, so if you cannot beat roulette, you cannot win at gambling....
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Old 31st October 2004, 08:40 PM
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Mr J from my impression works on latrge turnover and small margin grabbing small percentages here and there but on a regular basis and he makes a living from it and most of the facts and figures he puts on here are either well known or can be verified ...I dont bow down to mr J nor do other people on nor do i want to put in the time and effort he does to make his money >>>> I like to bet to entertain myself when i cant afford it I dont do it .........but what he says about casino games etc is true ....you will lose in the long run ...........if you want to stick your head in the sand go right ahead ...... but heres a tip and its free .... you are wrong ...live with it ..........they dont keep clubs and casinos going with beer and resurant sales ....
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Old 31st October 2004, 10:29 PM
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BJ.
It's not an attack on your credibility.
It's great that you are making a profit from the casino.
It's just mathematics and probability say that you can't continue doing this forever.
The odds of continuing on your merry way rise proportionately to the amount of time you continue playing.

And personality wise,Mr J can come across a little bit harsh sometimes.He tends to be very black and white.
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Old 31st October 2004, 10:38 PM
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this roulette thing is split two ways. i know alot of gambler work on return percentages. That plays a part as well but the truth I suck at backing dogs/horses.Your correct when u say clubs dont only survive on beer and spirits.
There are gamblers there who love pokies, and roulette players who are there to find a miricle which they dont. I come to play roulette to walk away with a reasonable target,and I do. The single zero doesnt bother me. Within my system I back the zero. Roulette pays out 35-1 where I play. My target is $150. Couldnt be that hard to aim for that.

Im sorry but I dont care what all the critics say about roulette.I lost more money on racing. Ive profit big time with roulette.

So u guys who dis roulette can guarantee me I make a comfortable livin playing whatever u play. No form of gambling is safe proof. Look at this weeks soccer results. Sh1t happens.
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