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#1
8th August 2005, 04:14 PM
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Thank you all for the interesting and informative posts on this topic...Hawkeye, you mention value (which I hear a lot from other forum members) and I note that some members give selections but only on the proviso that the horse is paying a certain divvie and not to go below this...
I know that this has been asked before and excuse my ignorance...can I ask how do you determine what that minimum value should be (FYI, I have a rating system that Ive been working on) and if a horse wins then (as an objective viewer) would that not be considered good enough?....always hard to pick winners as it is...if one doubles one's $$$ is that an acceptable return? And finally, if you mention win bets only on the TAB...is it safer to back each way and know that there is some return if your pick just misses out or does your experience suggest that there is a greater return in the long run? Again thanks all for your contributions and have to say that I have a been on an accelerated learning curve these last 6 months...great stuff!! 
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#2
14th August 2005, 11:45 PM
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#4
31st December 2006, 03:48 PM
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Does anyone listen to the Saturday morning racing programs-whatever state that may be?
If you do then you would be going broke at an accelarating rate. Some of these "tipsters".....well , what can I say.... their strike-rate would suggest that they may have to "get a real job!" Why don't they get "fair dinkum" and tip the horses they feel have a real chance! Any other sceptical punters out there....if so....please give us your views. Cheers.
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#5
20th January 2007, 03:37 PM
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Well, the "Saturday crowd" as I personally describe these "tipsters" again failed to deliver. Their "specials" failed to salute the judge and one of their "lays" duly saluted, so, if they actually backed their own recommendations they would be broke in a very short space of time.....then again there is "arbitrage" isn't there?
Moral Of Story: Punters, please have faith in your own selections and support them accordingly........you will get better value! On another note: I monitored a review program once and the panelist admitted that he rarely bets....well, what can I say.....it's like buying a motor vehicle from a used car dealer who had never driven a car! Cheers Last edited by xanadu : 20th January 2007 at 03:42 PM.
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#6
9th November 2008, 01:40 PM
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Here,s a system ( never been proven though )
Put a line through every tipsters selections and bet the rest . i.e If there were 8 horses not tipped anywhere add 1 and Only bet those at $9.00 Plus. Cheers. darky.
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#7
15th November 2008, 04:39 PM
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Fair dinkum.....!
Some of these "so-called egg-sperts" really need to have a good hard look at themselves! A trained monkey could do better than some of them! In fact an experiment was conducted and screened on Discovery Channel when a "monkey"(chimpanzee) randomly selected horses by pressing a buzzer for the runners which appealed to it. Guess what.....it had a better record than more than half of the "turf egg-sperts" who actually are being paid for their so-called skills. Makes you/me wonder doesn't it? Cheers.
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#8
26th November 2008, 12:58 PM
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What about when some of these so-called "egg-sperts" recommend "horses to follow?"
I know that some of them have been following the horses for years.....usually with a bucket and spade.......!!! Some of their strike-rate is abysmal! Cheers.
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#9
8th August 2005, 04:28 PM
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Sorry, me again...Hawkeye, you briefly mentioned bet types and methods...I have had difficulty maximising the $$ benefit of my selections and find that at the end of long day that I end up slightly ahead or even or worse, way down...it seems that knowing when and what and how to bet has a major impact on one's $$$ (at the end of the punting day)...
I have found more success betting on smaller fields although good returns and value can be found in the larger ones and tend to avoid exotics as I agree (with you) that you need a lot of $$$ to be successful...however I have seen a few Quinellas (exactas also) go by but dont know how one bets on these to get maximum benefit...any thoughts please that might point me in the right direction?
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Why waste money on education when you can gamble it away on the horses? Its more fun when youre doing it and you learn quickly...esp when you lose...
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#10
8th August 2005, 04:53 PM
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Desi,
Win betting, in my opinion is overall the best option. unless your horse is double figures, then e/w or straight out place is acceptable. This is due to the greatly superior odds one can attain for win betting to the supposedly proposed 1/4 odds available the place, this is very rarely the case. e.g paying $3.00 win $1.30 the place. Value is extremely hard to evaluate, if you can do it, your a pro. But i feel you don't have to be an expert to bet smart. If you looks at enough races, betting changes etc, you'll start to get a grasp of roughly how much your horse should be paying. I have not yet fully ventured into Multiple betting yet, but am keen to. I do video form, and analyse (ussually) every horse in the race, i feel my knowledge of a particular race could be used more productively using trifectas, exactas etc. As Mav and Hawkeye have stated, you can't be stinngy and leave viable selections out because they cost to much.
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