The Aussies are $19 to win on Betfair at this stage, which is unlikely but tempting all the same. One "magical session" from Ponting would do the trick -said the stark raving optimist.

I also see that you can lay the Aussies on Betfair for a minimum $19.5. So assuming they don't win, a draw or the Poms getting up would ne a nice little earner!

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Okay, once again, I'm a little lost there. I'm sorry, but what does that last bit mean? How much would you win if it was a draw or an England win? I still don't really understand the whole betfair laying thing.

In any case, I think Australia are really up against it here. The upcoming "Super Series" between Australia and the World XI is going to be a bit embarassing if we lose the Ashes.

I am no expert, just learning this laying thingy-magingy however this is how i understand it:
To 'lay' is opposite to 'backing'. So on betfair it has two columns, one says 'back' the other 'lay'. If i back the Aussies i am wagering that they will win, similarly if i back the Poms or a draw. Conversely if i lay the Aussies i am saying they will not win, therefore any other result other than the Aussies winning is good.

At this late stage i do not think that they will win, so given that i think the most likely result is either the poms will win by bowling them out or they will hang on to draw (i.e the aussie will NOT win) i wager to 'lay' the Aussies to win. I will win as long as the Aussies do not pull of the miraculous and get up. A draw and or the Poms winning will see my wager successful - laying the Aussies to win. It is the opposite to backing. Does this make any sense?

P.S I just remembered that here in Oz we can't bet online on mathces "in running" so it really doesn't matter - pity. However when Betfair start up over here with their new tassie license we should be able to phone it in, like IAS and others.

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how bad was that LBW decision........... just what you dont need when things aren't going well!!!

Sorry, after reviewing my post i have made an error.

If you lay the Aussies they must lose, a draw is no good as it is not a loss.

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If you lay the aussies a draw is in your favour as long as the Australia DONT win the bickies are yours (less5% of course) you can bet in running with betfair on the phone minimum bet is $50......I bet with an english bookie live betting (no min)...you can even lay (through the peer to peer type bet)... my email is...... vonnika2001 at ya you know hoo dot com dot au....If you want to discuss it......... I dont like discussing it on here because it could be illegal and I dont want anybody gettting Tichy ...drop us a line if you like

Cool, thanks Floydy,

That's good to hear re: laying the Aussies to win. As i type 7th wicket down, 170 odd more to get off about 25 or so overs. No way Aussies will win now i am sorry to say. Laying Aussies to win woulda been nice little 'bickie' earner!

I will drop you a line soon to discuss further

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Sorry my bad .......drop the "au" before you drop me a line

Woo-Hoo - what a result!

Is that all you got Poms?
Wouldn't like to be you if these Aussies start to play.
Nice innings Mr Ponting.
Sleepy time now.
Woo-Hoo

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Yes. Very happy (relieved) with that result!

They've got 9 days now to get things right for the next test. They basically played with just 2 1/2 bowlers in this test. After all, Gillespie did nothing once again (why did they pick him???) and McGrath obviously wasn't 100% during the first innings.

The poms are outbowling us EASILY. Flintoff and Jones looked far more dangerous than any of our bowlers. It was amazing that we escaped with a draw.