very good jd.

Aussies will win

I hope you're right, but here's what you said before the last test.

"australia will not lose this testmatch...england should be 10-1"

Let me re-phrase that, for mine the Aussies will fire up rather than for me especially.

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I like Bing Lee.

Well, England's won the toss, so our chances of winning just dropped straight away.

Oh ye of little faith, pray tell was that the fourth wicket i hear falling as i type? Me thinks it is, just gotta score some runs now.

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I like Bing Lee.

aussies are still too short for me.

England will more than likely score 370-400, australia will bat all 2nd day and hopefully be around 300 by close. bat 3rd day till tea for 500, need to bowl england out for say 300 , chase 100 on last day... easy.

but can they make 500 ? unlikely.

bowl england out for 300 ? maybe if warne takes 7.

chase 100 + on last day ? possible

What happens if they lose time for rain? these scores assume scoring rate of 4 an over... england will defend if need be.

cant see it happening.

Apparently, it's raining at the moment.

I have absolutely NO IDEA why Australia are so short!!! It's just ridiculous. As far as I'm concerned, to justify the price they are, they had to bowl England out for around 250.

I can't believe the odds at Sportingbet:
$2.10 Australia
$3.10 Draw
$3.85 England

What Cricket are they watching??? England will make no attempt to win this game at all and the rain is likely to help them.

I took the draw this morning the with forecast of rain for 2 days , but i'm happy if we win,could not back the pomms to win this game, even with monopoly money !

I obviously got some dodgy info about the weather!

Goldmember,

I've backed the draw and an England win and I will do quite well if England wins the series. But I can tell you that I will be delighted if I lose those bets. I just hate the thought of the poms winning the Ashes.

Sportz, this is only my 2nd bet on the tests, with my punting cap on, i thought the draw was a good bet, but if i collect we lose the ashes, so i'm with a draw or aust, i honestly could not see the pomms winning THIS match, they have out played us in previously and if you went on form they should be favourite, but the gut tells me they cant win this one !