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Old 1st November 2005, 04:44 AM
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The Diva whole prep. was for the Cox Plate, not the Cup. The horse has pulled up well but that doesn't mean she is going to go out and win the Cup with 58kg. She peaked for the Cox end will be very vulnerable in the Cup.

Eye Popper gets his big chance at his pet distance with Distinction to me, the other big O/S danger.

John Hawkes is burning for a Cup and Railing is cherry ripe for this, but I wouldn't leave Demerger out as a serious contender after a perfect prep. She will be a lot tougher than in her easy Adelaide Cup win last May. Portland Singer has the right weight and the right Jocky.... heck, just take a Boxed field tri. in this race.

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Old 1st November 2005, 04:44 PM
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Lay the Diva with confidence - eh?
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Old 1st November 2005, 05:28 PM
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The Diva whole prep. was for the Cox Plate, not the Cup. The horse has pulled up well but that doesn't mean she is going to go out and win the Cup with 58kg. She peaked for the Cox end will be very vulnerable in the Cup.

Eye Popper gets his big chance at his pet distance with Distinction to me, the other big O/S danger.

John Hawkes is burning for a Cup and Railing is cherry ripe for this, but I wouldn't leave Demerger out as a serious contender after a perfect prep. She will be a lot tougher than in her easy Adelaide Cup win last May. Portland Singer has the right weight and the right Jocky.... heck, just take a Boxed field tri. in this race.


I did orginally post something else that probably wouldn't have stood up to management' standards, so perhaps I can ask this question of Empower, which is, how could any reliable ratings service have a horse such as Makybe Diva priced at 20/1 plus? It just doesn't stand up to any logical analysis.

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Old 2nd November 2005, 10:49 AM
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...another classic example of why some people prefer to sell their information rather than punt it.
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Old 1st November 2005, 05:00 PM
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Well Empower,
Your market was way out. I can understand if you didn't have the great mare on top, but instead had it second or third. But for it to be worse than 20/1?
You wrote:
"Win Betting - For those interested in win betting there is going to be great value here no matter which way you look at it for the simple fact Makybe Diva is going to start a relatively short priced favorite and she can't win."
SHE CAN'T WIN. Talk about messing it up. From memory you also badly missed Railings in the Caulfield Cup.

Here are your Cup prices. Sorry. Way out without the mare there.


Eye Popper 11/2 = 15.38% of market

Mr Celebrity 13/2 = 13.33% of market

Leica Falcon 15/2 = 11.76% of market

Greys Inn 9/1 = 10.00% of market

Strausbourg 12/1 = 7.69% of market

Distinction 12/1 = 7.69% of market

Kamsky 20/1 = 4.76% of market

Lachlan River 20/1 = 4.76% of market

Represents a total of 75.37% of the market.
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Old 1st November 2005, 05:06 PM
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Folly of listening to others there Marcus, make your own selections and be happy if you win, learn from your mistakes when you lose and stuff everyone else.
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Old 1st November 2005, 05:22 PM
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For those interested in win betting there is going to be great value here no matter which way you look at it for the simple fact Makybe Diva is going to start a relatively short priced favorite and she can't win.


This is what I was talking about on another thread. Even if you didn't have her rated on top, there's just simply no way you could say that a horse as good as her "can't win".
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