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Old 12th November 2005, 10:34 AM
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This was based on metro races only I should say.


Yes, this system is for Bris, Syd, Melb on Saturdays only.
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Old 12th November 2005, 09:53 AM
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Default Sportz system test

Sorry Sportz
I left out the rule of fav between $3.00 and $5.00.
That improved the bottom line greatly from 8.7% to 32.1%.
The losing sequence dropped to six but the strike rate dropped to 26.3%.
There were only 38 selections over the period (15 months), so it is very selective.
By the way Sunday's had 10 selections for no winners.
Take Sunday's out and you have 79.3% POT LLWS = 4 S/R = 35.7%

Good luck with whichever way you decide to go.
It does show promise but requires patience, something I'm lacking.
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Old 12th November 2005, 10:18 AM
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Hi Surround,

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for that.

Go back to rule 7. You've only included distance winners, whereas I wanted horses which had won at this distance AT THIS TRACK. (not sure if you could test for that) And I also wanted to include last start beaten favourites (they don't have to have won at either distance or track). And you've also left out the distance rule of 1300m+.

Anyway, never mind. Thanks very much for your help.

By the way, in the 3 month test period last year, I got 14 qualifiers for 8 wins, 13 placings and a P.O.T of about 140%:
Aug 7 E.Fm R8-1 Strong Suit UNP
Aug14 G.Cst R6-1 Common Knowledge PLA $1.40
Aug21 Caul R1-1 Umbula PLA $1.50
Aug28 Rose R2-1 Canny Princess WON $4.40/$1.50
Sep 1 Sand R7-1 Batarshi WON $4.10/$1.50
Sep26 Hbt R9-1 Coalfields WON $3.30/$1.50
Sep27 Alb R5-1 Mary's Flag WON $5.70/$2.20
Sep27 P.Mc R7-1 Rodeo Chute Out WON $3.70/$1.50
Oct 4 Belm R4-1 Zero Engagement WON $2.20/$1.50
Oct 9 Chel R7-1 Lord Mick PLA $1.70
Oct14 Moe R5-1 Tortuga WON $5.70/$2.10
Oct16 E.Fm R2-1 Rue The Saint PLA $3.20
Oct22 Mack R2-1 Larrikin Prince PLA $1.40
Oct26 Tar R6-1 Desert Shaker WON $5.50/$2.30

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Old 12th November 2005, 10:56 AM
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Default System update

Sportz
There you go. told you I didn't have too much patience.
Chrome has a much larger data base to work from so his analysis would be better than mine.
Anyway I plugged in the other rules I'd missed and this is the outcome.
Races 1300m and above = 14.% POT LLWS = 9 S/R = 34.1%
Must have won on track = 13.1% = 9 = 35.1
Btn favourite last start = 17.4% = 10 = 28.8 from 66 selections

I just plugged those rules in to the previous rules I'd applied.
I was wondering if you might be being too selective as the earlier one that I'd inadvertently mucked up showed a lot of promise.
I think you could do something with it.

Good luck
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Old 12th November 2005, 11:14 AM
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Hey, no worries. Just throwing a few ideas around. It was purely a more restrictive version of another system I had on the forum a while ago, and as you can see, it worked very well in the test period I had last year. I simply wanted to see how it's been going lately.
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Old 12th November 2005, 12:03 PM
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Bhagwan helped me create this system last year:



(12) Last start no more than 21 days ago


my old Number 1 system
(7) Must have won at this track at this dist (c) or be a last start beaten fav


Hi Sportz,

Both systems look promising but....

Why does everyone include rule 12) in their systems,imo its a myth,unless someone can show me a comparison of win % for those that started no more than 21 days ago & those over 21 days i will continue to totaly disregard it.



In the 2nd system i dont get rule 7),could you explain the reasoning behind asking for something as specific as won at track and distance and then turning around and ignoring that rule just because the horse was a last start loser at short odds.
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Old 12th November 2005, 01:42 PM
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Question Isn't that interesting....

Days since last run these are the results I get for this year
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Old 12th November 2005, 01:48 PM
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In the 2nd system i dont get rule 7),could you explain the reasoning behind asking for something as specific as won at track and distance and then turning around and ignoring that rule just because the horse was a last start loser at short odds.


Hi Dale!

"(7) Must have won at this track at this dist (c) or be a last start beaten fav"

If you read this carefully you will find that this statement is not a mutual exclusion, but an extra inclusion instead.
Ie. if it had not won on this track AND distance, it must have been a last start beaten fav. at least, to be included!
Cheers.
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Old 12th November 2005, 03:15 PM
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In the 2nd system i dont get rule 7),could you explain the reasoning behind asking for something as specific as won at track and distance and then turning around and ignoring that rule just because the horse was a last start loser at short odds.


This system is simply an improved version of another system I previously used. In the original system, there were four different plans. One of them required a win at this track & dist. Another required a last start beaten favourite. Then there were two other plans which did not do so well, so I simply deleted them and kept the first two.
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Old 12th November 2005, 03:19 PM
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Why does everyone include rule 12) in their systems,imo its a myth,unless someone can show me a comparison of win % for those that started no more than 21 days ago & those over 21 days i will continue to totaly disregard it.


Well, Bhagwan worked out the first system and I assume that he found out that 21 days or less worked out the best. With the 2nd system, there were not a huge number of horses outside the 21 day range, but removing them improved the profitability in the period I tested it.
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