Hi Marcus,

I've been meaning to check this out using my selections since you wrote it (only taken just over a year to get round to it) and it's showing some promise. Are you still doing it? Is it working still? Are you watching a screen up to jump time or how do you decide which horse to bet on. Did you try any other similar things before you settled on this.

I've just checked betting on my first two selections if they are over $2 for the place (mainly because I remembered the details of what you were doing wrongly) and it works quite well like that (about 5% profit).

KV

Hi KV!
Sure I do. Done it for years and it works fine.
Actually I concentrate mostly on the second and maybe on my third selection.
If none of the first three qualify,(ie.<$2.00), and the fourth is not too far down in my ratings, AND pays well, then I bet on that.
Of course the first selection has a better SR. just as it should, but I find the sec. returns more for a slightly lower SR.
I find the $2.00 or more return, very satisfying, it covers the next bet in full, if I want a next bet. Sometimes I get annoyed that I don't bet because it is below my odds, and it comes in paying $1.60, but I know from my analysis that I am far better off, leaving them alone.
Also the last few months I have followed Kenchar's hint, and watch the NZ races on Saturdays, looking for anomalies between the win and place prices.
The results are amazing, strange, that the same thing never happens in local races.
One thing though, I preselect horses to rate, that are not going to be popular picks, but have a solid chance of placing or winning.
Most days I just put in a small bet on the sec. selection because of work, but if I have a chance yes, I watch the odds couple min. before the jump, in the TAB, can't do it at home, get distracted and miss the race, and also I find that in the long run the prices you get on the different TABs even out, maybe with the bookies it would be different, but I'm doing OK so why increase the workload?
PS. Most important!!! I am not a gambler, I do it solely for the money and if I am up a certain amount, I want to win, I stop, also if I can see the day is not panning out right , I STOP! I am sure you know the feeling yourself, that some days are just losing days, so why persevere? There is always an other day tomorrow!
Good luck

been dutching for sometime & made not too bad a fist of it, however as with any methods it always comes back to your selection method(s), if they hold up all is sweet.

you may want to consider setting a minumum price about your shortest nag, say 3/1, which should assist in you never having to bet into an odds on situation.

maybe also consider a reversal of the standard way of doing things by having the larger share of your total bet on the longer priced nag(s) & less on the shorties.

You could also chase the Favorite dutch style.

Lets say you wanted to win $10 when one of the Fav's get up an also recover any past loss along the way.

Divide the price of the Fav minus 1 into ten dollars.Thats it
Next bet will be the loss plus $10 = Total (Divide the price of the Fav minus 1 ).
Look its all been done before and this method will require a large bank lets say 40 times your target to handle the run outs and at times you will lose your bank.
But this method does,will work.

Cheers
Skater

Any system that requires you to increase your bets after a loss or a win for that matter will in the end fail and is bad money managment to use

I'm not sure if dutching is about winning or trying not to lose.Having been there in desperate times,I suspect the latter.

If you go down the dutching path I suggest target betting.Get in,grab the cash and get out.Other than that try a few weeks "dry" punting,get your confidence back.Re-charge the batteries,refresh the brain cells.

IMHO (lolol I never did the imho thingo before) dutching is the last step before admitting defeat.I know,I've been there.

Good luck,,, cheers Bill.

Well I have been dutching 2 horses a race (1 unit on each).

I am doing well because my selection method is sound and based on common sense. I don't intend to dutch any more horses than 2 as the math gets more complicated and it only added a further 10% to my strike rate.

I have increased my strike rate from 25% winning races to approx 45%.

I usually will only alter the bets if one of the horses is below $2.00 ( place an extra unit on it ).

Thanks for all the constructive feedback.

Two horses a race ?? 1 unit on each ?? Dutching ???

Your strike rate for two horses 45% is fantastic.

Well done.

syllabus,

Here are the horses I took today ( yes its old news now But I am not going to start giving away free tips anymore when I can make money on them ). I did that before and showed I earned a profit just with my top selection. Taking my top 2 seems to work even better :

Grafton :
Race 2: 3,4 - Winner 4 - $3.10 (2nd Pick)
Race 4: 9,4 - Winner 4 - $3.10 (2nd Pick)
Race 5: 1,2 - Winner 1 - $4.90
Race 7: 1,4 - Winner 4 - $6.10 (2nd Pick)

Horsham
Race 6: 3,5 ( LOST 2nd and 3rd)
Race 7: 1,2 - WINNER - $4.60
Race 8: 1,2 - WINNER - $5.40 (2nd Pick)

Muswellbrook
Race 4: 1, 2 - WINNER $3.40 (2nd Pick)

Outlay $16 Return $30.60 Strike Rate ( 7/8 races = 87%)

Without dutching the top 2 selections :

8 selections for only 2 winners for $9.50 return.

No doubt about it, today was a good day.

Nothing wrong with taking more than one runner a race but i would think the limit is about 3 and the best is to just put equal amounts on each....when the longer priced winners come in you will enjoy the profits.