Good job on M.V. races 7 and 8. On my TAB I got 8-1 on Reuben and 14-1 on Charmed Lady.

Thanks,

Glenn

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There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear.

Retired or retarded? Much the same. I'm retired...

well done old fella..................gazman...............

Hope everyone took my advice. You would have been left with:


M/Valley:
R7
Ruben
Mr Magoo [at top odds].
Both to win and exacta.
R8
Charmed [easily] on top
Brom Fidelity. Both to win and Exacta

Victoria Park:
R5
Rally to win
Open Cut and Rally exacta.
Throw in Chong Tong for a $3 tri.

IAS odds.
Charmed [win $14.33]
Straight up exacta $96.21 [I had $20 on it-)]

Ralley [win $$8.99] Just missed the Ralley Open cut[3rd] exacta $20 straight up also.,

Ruben a close 2nd. at $3.40p which I took 1x4 e/w as I was surprised at the odds on offer.

Cheers.

After last week with Brindabella and Classic Karla win and tri, I'm looking good for an old stager:-)

Cheers.

See you next week.
I hope some punters had a bit of faith and got on board. Ignore anything I say might win before next Sat. [dart board 5min. handicapping method]. I only get serious on Saturdays in carefully selected races [good only], with about 1 1/2 hrs. form study work per race. So there is never many of them [God, how do people pick whole cards and often for all meetings?]. Mind blowing:-)

Crash,

Is there any chance you could share some of your handicapping wisdom ?

Howdy Brad,
Your basically new here, so deserve more attention than anyone else,

From 35 yrs.[+] of hard work. I can only say pick your races VERY carefully [4yrs,old and up shows heaps of exposed form], The goal is to win money, not to select the winner of every race on the card.
Never bet on anything except 'good" and invest in a great form guide [I use Expert Form] with ratings, but never invest in 'top' ratings alone [useless]. I spend $60 per month for that and it's worth every penny [peanuts] because I have healthy bets. Don't be timid with your bets. Believe in yourself and not the opinion of others [I never listen to the radio about selections or ever take into account tips or discussions in form guides or opinion especially on this forum]. I just 'do the form' and make my selections and decide how I'll bet them. The greater the odds for your selection[s] the greater you bet [I often double my bet when the price drifts out]. Overlays, overlays and overlays is the name of the game.

Many punters here laugh at me when I basically rule out most races as betting propositions, I don't give a fig. I back nothing with more than 14 runners [usually] and am looking for overlays and Horses the 'public' have missed [misplaced].

I do a complete horse history of all runners [There-in lies the gold] for every chosen race, looking for a swag of pointers. Hell, there is a lot more to this. I'd need a big page to explain it all and I certainly cant here. I just do my thing and it has been paying handsomely for many years. I have nothing to prove to anybody. We live in the best street in Paynesville with possibly the best view of the lake at our doorstep and through our lounge room window. We have a 4b a 2 motorbikes and no mortgage. My wife has her own business as a gardener [mows laws and gardens]and I do stuff all except punt [go figure]. That is the first time I have ever admitted that I do very well at this game. Handicapping is the only way to do it for this boy anyway [I do like playing with systems for fun though]. Stick everything else up .,....

Keep your bet selection total down [few races and bets up], choose the best races to bet on and forget the rest. No more than my post race selection today was worthwhile, Ignore the 'bottom feeder' 5/1 the field races. Except for fun [which I indulge in too for very small bets during the week]. Saturdays I'm a very serious punter and so are my dollars. I no longer work for a living [I'm not a 'pro' punter, hate the title ....what a ********]. I'm on this forum at all hours of the day because I can afford to be [for the last few years]. I'm just lucky my hard yards yield for now, I'm not a 'professional' just a hard working punter. I make sure most of my opinions are amateur but [hopefully] never condescending.

There is no mystery to winning in this game. Hard work and careful race selection and a top form guide will beat it. Keep your bets [mostly] for the win at flat stakes. Go for the exacta when confident. Tri's very, very rarely and quins. never. It's a lolly if you do it right. Now, about my new boat....

Cheers. If I can help anyone with punting problems or method,,I am available privately. Give me your em and you problem. It's useually technique. I'm not sure if I have done the right thing here with my tips. I may not do so in the future. Next week OK. but possibly my last exposure. I like my space and can't believe I wrote this. I think it's because i see so many punters here with problems so easily avoided. I'm a tough ************ with a soft heart[?]
Ho Ho !!

The morning after.

Oh my god. What ever happened to the old edit system when a guy could scrub a post the next day? Just pretend I never ever wrote that woeful garbage above.

G'day Crash
I'm glad you wrote that rubbish.
Probably the best bit of advice I have seen encapsulated in a small post for many a day anywhere.
I also spend countless hours doing form history 7 days a week and concentrate my efforts in the one area only (Victoria)
After a long time at the form analysis game it's hard to explain how you get to smell a winner.
Having said that, I believe I am a good analyser but a bad punter.
I remember one of the best from times gone by lamenting that despite being a good analyser of form he did not know how to win. (the late Cliff Carey)
Yesterday at Terang I sniffed out Regal Quest. Did not collect a cent because I had a trifecta and missed 2nd placegetter in right order.
Also had the winner of the last at Terang and again missed the trifecta with order of placings.
I had Talons Shown and Charmed lady clearly on top.
When I placed a trifecta I took Talons Shown to win and did not include Charmed Lady for 1st or 2nd. (unconciously influenced by the spruikers on track and the air waves and the tote board.)
In the last at Moonee valley I took Mc Lir and Our Spur to win in a trifecta and missed out again when 2 of the horses I had in for 3rd filled the other places.
For whatever reason I have become psychologically addicted to exotics and can't seem to break away from it.
I also have a psychological aversion to larger outlays on the one bet which in the case of trifecta betting prevents me from including all my place selections for 2nd and 3rd. (usually only 5-6 in addition to the win selections)
The psychology of punting is the biggest aspect to conquer.
In my case I have identified my downfall but have trouble changing my ways.

Imagele, [my god, how did you come up with that. I had to do an edit to correct my spelling of it]

I was totally blind when I wrote that previous post of mine last night. Now I'm totally embarrassed.

OK, I'll catch you up on the big thing in your post I noticed. There are other points but tidily only.
"When I placed a trifecta I took Talons Shown to win and did not include Charmed Lady for 1st or 2nd. (unconsciously influenced by the spruikers on track and the air waves and the tote board.)"

Problem solving starts small.
Try this: NEVER EVER [NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER...GOT THAT?] TURN YOUR RADIO [or TV] ON EXCEPT AT THE JUMP. NEVER, NEVER ,NEVER, NEVER LISTEN TO SPRUIKERS ANYWHERE [unless they are 5'6 and 38-32-38 and me- o- my, they have a something called a 'special' on offer, just for you].

Cheers mate.

What a coincidence. I dreamed of someone like that last night.
At 60 yrs old the dream was welcome.