I agree totally.

It seems to be favourites all in a row or bolters all in a row, weird how a pattern follows for the entire night/morning.

I got caught more than once by an unseemly and unlikely string of favourites at different tracks winning consecutively, I think it was 22 in a row. Yet other times an unlikely and again unseemly pattern of bolters all in a row.

You just don't see this in Aus, U.K., Hong Kong.

There's a reason they call it "dirt" racing

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Well now gentlemen i'm afraid i'll have to take hombrage at your comments.

Mark, you assert that American racing is inconsistent and suspicious based on your (or Betfair's) inability to distinguish between Eastern, Central and Pacific time. Hardly their fault. I have never found this to be the case.

Chrome, these unlikely and unseemly favourites you speak of. Would you concede that they were not all that unlikely or unseemly to the American punters?

Now i must admit that at times i have seen things that have made me wonder, as i have here in Australia. However just because i don't agree or like the results, or have a bad day or whatever, doesn't make them incorrect or "dodgy", as you are both suggesting.

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Hi Mad

Not sure what hombrage is, but there you go.

The inconsistencies I was referring to had nothing to do with start times or Betfair. I just believe (my opinion only) that there are many boat races, so I prefer to stay away. And as Chrome alluded to, I once saw 17 favs win in a row. If you can make consistent profits, congratulations.

Well your point is fair and well taken. Not to continue the argument, but it's a reasonable point worth discussing:

If you consider the size and quality of fields in a lot of these races, then statistically, if we have small fields of varying degrees of quality and the market ascertains that one particular horse has superior ability, then we are likely to have a situation where the favourite starts at very short odds. This would suggest that the favourite should win approx 1 in 2 races, assuming the favourite is priced accordingly, as is often the case. Under these circumstances it is hardly surprising to see the favourite win 10, 12, 20 times in a row and then get rolled 10, 12, 20 times in a row. Think heads v. tails in a coinflip.

From a statistical standpoint this would suggest that in fact the U.S market is as accurate as would be expected.

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Dunno Mad,

It's not that they are more accurate, it's that 22 consecutive favourites in a row in more than a two horse race is statistically improbable. This doesn't happen rarely either.
I don't think that Americans are better judges by thousands of percents than anywhere else in the world.

Bear in mind these horses were not all odds on, not even all even money, many of them were around the $2.80 to $3.30 mark.

As Mark said, boat races.

I would expect them to win more than 1 in 2, but only if there were two horses in the race, these were fields of up to 10 starters.

Of course it could be my bad luck, but months later I took another look to have a very similar result happen, so won't be going anywhere near it in future.

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