Most of those 'benefits' your alluding to were gone a long time ago and now you can sack em' and cut their wages too any time you like. Oh joy for management!

Bit of an angry shot Crash, but I meant it when I said that anyone who is anygood rises to the top. My no.1 man had a higher taxable income than me.
These days I'm scaling down.
Putting a topical slant on this thread, I've never really heard much complaining before from Jockeys, only a lot of conjecture about what they are paid, anyone know the real story?

S.H.I..... also rises to the top mate, Just look at our politicians and some of our white collar corporate raiders who rob the mums and dads of Australia [Bondy was a good example]. Lets leave the neo-c.o.n [Ann Rand] garbage of this site Party.

Politicians= jobs for the boys, (nepotism & croneyism) not from effort, ......Bondy, well not many complained when their Super was growing at 100% P/A in some cases (as a result of investments to Bond schemes) , they only complained when it hit the fan, and considering he employed 1000's of people, and many more employed indirectly,.... there is another side to the 007 story eh?

what about that question about the Jockeys pay anyone know?

Bondy your hero is he? How many mums and dads lost their life savings to that **********?

Spot on Partypooper,
Just look at recently "inducted" politicians on the bench.
What have they done prior - 0
Who do they know........

The quality of politicians is dismal, they sell their souls and lie to get a fat payout, company car and holidays.
Jobs for the boys indeed.

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Crash, it's quite true, you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

However, whatever happened to self respect, dedication, committment, customer care. This is why foreign employees are snapping up aussie jobs, employers can pay peanuts and get those qualities and more.

It's a vicious circle though, if sales staff gave a fig about what they do, sales would quadruple overnight and employers might just offer better wages.

Personally, I built my IT business based on old fashioned principles, old fashioned customer service, following up and attending to clients every problem. So much so, many jobs I made a loss on.

However, the referrals I got far outweighed the effort I put in.

This meant no advertising costs and happy clients.

A happy customer is a repeat customer, and so is everyone he knows

9/10 times these days, if I need something done or need to buy something, I ask around, word of mouth is better than spending millions on advertising and a far more accurate guide.

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Back to the sandblaster (again)

Was referred to a bloke with a little auto shop.
Went and saw him yesterday.
He asked me about 10 questions about exactly what I needed done, took me around to show me the difference in products, then showed me examples of his work, then proceeded to say, drop it off and I'll show you how it's done.

Suffice to say, he has got the job, plus will be looking at an entire engine rebuild job.

A little effort, a little care and the profits come.

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[QUOTE=Chrome Prince]Crash, it's quite true, you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

However, whatever happened to self respect, dedication, commitment, customer care.
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What happened? It went West when customers embraced the bottom line.

Glass Bead Blasting? Zoe's was cracking up [Glass bead blasting utilities from a hardware store?]. She used to work in her uncles Panel Beaters and boy , get it done by a pro!

It was in their catalogue crash, and you don't need a pro to wave a sandblasting gun, however, I went with a pro who worked out cheaper than buying the equipment.

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