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Old 5th March 2008, 03:28 AM
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nah, this raises something that's been worrying me for a while, I have 2 place plans doing VERY well for 4 years and a win plan doing good for 2 years, in PERTH only,......... when I try to implement these plans to Eastern States racing, they come up negative, yet continue to thrive in WA.

How can this be, if a plan is correct it should be correct across the board, shouldn't it?
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Old 5th March 2008, 06:36 AM
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How can this be, if a plan is correct it should be correct across the board, shouldn't it?


Party,

Not necessarily, I mentioned, on this forum a couple of years back, that I have this very problem, and nobody had an answer, including me.

There are a few tracks where my rating simply will not work.
Perth and Sydney, are some of them, actually. And yet the rest of the WA tracks are behaving as all the other winning tracks.
The easiest thing is to leave them alone, until you find a solution, or leave them alone permanent!
Good luck with it!
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Old 5th March 2008, 07:42 AM
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nah, this raises something that's been worrying me for a while, I have 2 place plans doing VERY well for 4 years and a win plan doing good for 2 years, in PERTH only,......... when I try to implement these plans to Eastern States racing, they come up negative, yet continue to thrive in WA.

How can this be, if a plan is correct it should be correct across the board, shouldn't it?


I think there is a very good reason for this. Check out the race times in WA. A very high % of races are truly run [within 2 sec of race records], the exact opposite to what's happening in the East. Form statistics become far more meaningful in truly run races and thats a big bonus for good systems and handicapping methods generally [It also explains why more favorites get up in WA than anywhere else].
When we see a blanket finish we are looking at a race that isn't being truly run. What do we see in the East? Constant blanket finishes!

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Old 5th March 2008, 11:53 AM
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It could be the makeup of trainers and bloodstock racing in the area, or track types.

As far as Perth racing goes, well you have a relatively small pool of horses that race eachother week in week out.
There are not that many ring ins or surprises, only a poor form horse coming back into form.
Therefore the top rated horses will dominate the horses they've been beating for some time.
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Old 5th March 2008, 12:36 PM
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It could be the makeup of trainers and bloodstock racing in the area, or track types.

As far as Perth racing goes, well you have a relatively small pool of horses that race eachother week in week out.
There are not that many ring ins or surprises, only a poor form horse coming back into form.
Therefore the top rated horses will dominate the horses they've been beating for some time.

Agreed. It's a fairly closed system as is Darwin and to a lesser extent Tassie.
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