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Old 20th October 2008, 12:13 PM
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Prior to privatisation of the TAB, the incumbent gov't and oppositions in their pre-election speeches promised to cancel this unfair method of divvy calculation but we all know about pollies' promises.

Ken Callender was probably the loudest voice against the introduction and continuation of it.

I suppose its not surprising that many $1.04 and $1.10 divvies can be obtained at much better prices on Betfair. The best example I've seen is a $1.04 TAB divvy have a final traded price on Betfair of $1.29.

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Old 20th October 2008, 02:06 PM
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Here's another Sky greyhound system I'm looking at (and been betting).

1 ) Must be sole 100 pointer.
2 ) Must be the sole top Early Speed selection.

Because the first four selections have already been run, and have either won or placed, I'll list the remaining selections and see how they go.

Albion Park R9 no.1
Angle Park R2 no.3
Angle Park R8 no.3
Wentworth R9 no.2

Already run are:
Geelong R2 no.1 - won, $1.30 and $1.40
Geelong R6 no.8 - won, $2.10 and $1.20
Geelong R8 no.3 - 2nd, $1.30
Geelong R9 no.2 - won, $1.70 and $1.04.
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Old 20th October 2008, 09:59 PM
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After scratchings, there were four 30 pointers selections. Two won for a loss of $0.80 and all four placed for a profit of $1.04.

After scratchings, there were six Sole 100 Pointer with top Early Speed selections. Four won for a profit of $1.60 and all six placed for a profit of $1.64.
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Old 21st October 2008, 10:10 AM
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Today's selections are:

30 Points Method
Devenport R2 no.8
Devenport R3 no.2
Gawler R10 no.4
Gosford R5 no.7
Horsham R10 no.8
Ipswich R6 no.3
Ipswich R10 no.2
Warragul R6 no.7

Early Speed Method
Devenport R4 no.8
Gosford R1 no.3
Ipswich R4 no.5
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Old 21st October 2008, 03:03 PM
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4 out of 4 both ways, so far Michael. Congrats (trust I haven't cruelled things now!!)
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Old 21st October 2008, 03:50 PM
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You were asking about best greyhound divs. in an earlier post, Michael. I have just noticed that Canbet and IAS, although having an identical set up, are paying based on different totes. Your first three picks today:

Dev. 2 CANBET 1.52/1.01 IAS 1.41/1.06
Dev. 3 " 1.21/1.41 " 1.41/1.32
Gaw. 10 " 3.69/1.32 " 3.06/1.32

Worth keeping an eye on. Of course, it begs the question as to which will be paying the best in any given race!

Went to a lot of trouble placing the above in nice columns --- and this is how it turned out!!! I guess you can understand it though.

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Old 21st October 2008, 07:16 PM
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Thanks, Merriguy.

As you say, its difficult to know which will pay the best. I will compare them with the TAB and see if any one is superior, but with such small pools I think they will more or less be identical over time.

Pity we can't bet Place on Betfair as I think it would not be too hard to get some good divvies for TAB money-back, just like with the horses.

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Old 21st October 2008, 08:07 PM
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Nice start Michael.
All-ups look like a potential if this kind of result continues.
What I've seen of all-ups to date is that they are confined to the one meeting i.e. to bet Gawl R1 to Geel R3 to Hba R6 you would need to be sitting at the computer and reinvesting your return from each race as you got the result.
Anyone know of TAB or bookie where you can go across meetings ?
cheers ...Mancunian
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Old 22nd October 2008, 07:54 AM
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I think parlays would also be promising. The NSW TAB had been considering inter-meeting parlays and all-ups a few years ago but I'm not sure whether its currently available. Maybe someone can confirm this? I'll have a look at their website later today, maybe even try to have an inter-meeting bet and see what happens.

30 Points - yesterday there were 7 selections for 5 placegetters for a loss of $0.42, and 5 winners for a profit of $1.90.

There have now been 14 placegetters from 17 selections for a POT of 4.11%, and 11 winners for a POT of 15.88%.

Interestingly, Win betting after such a small sample has been outperforming Place in both methods - maybe its just going through a lucky period.

Top Early Speed - yesterday there were 3 selection, all three placed for a profit of $1.84. Only one selection won for a loss of $0.50.

There have now been 9 placegetters from 9 selections for a POT of 38.66%, and 5 winners for a POT of 22.22%.

Today's selections:

30 Points
Ballarat R5 no.3
Bendigo R9 no.1
Bulli R9 no.3
Ipswich R2 no.3
The Gardens R9 no.6

Top Early Speed
Angle Park R3 no.3
Bulli R9 no.3
Cannington R6 no.3
The Gardens R1 no.3

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Old 23rd October 2008, 07:44 AM
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The NSW TAB does not offer inter-meeting all-ups or parlays. In fact, it seems they no longer offer all-ups, only parlays.

30 Pointers.
Yesterday was not a good day. There were 3 placegetters from 5 selections for a loss of $0.60, but Win betting provided a profit of $0.30.

There have now been 17 placegetters from 22 selections for a POT of 0.05%, and 14 winners from 22 selections for a POT of 13.6%.

Best Early Speed.
From yesterday's 4 selections there were 3 placegetters for a return of $5.90 but winning betting provided a return of $1.60.

There have now been 12 placegetters from 13 selections for a POT of 41.3% but 6 winners for a LOT of 16%.

Today's selections:
30 Pointers
Albion R2 no.1
Angle R4 no.7
Hobart R1 no.7
Hobart R7 no.1
Hobart R9 no.2
Horsham R4 no.4
Horsham R7 no.8
Maitland R10 no.3

Best Early Speed.
Horsham R2 no.5
Maitland R9 no.1
Mandurah R3 no.1
Sandown R5 no.1
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