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Old 16th June 2009, 07:26 PM
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The quote above reminds me of the blackjack dealer at a Casino who was telling me how every gambler playing blackjack could leave a winner if they just stopped once they were in front. I replied, "And what happens if they get behind right from the start and never get in front. At what point do they stop playing and cut their losses?"


That bit is actually true.
It's well known that many players would be in front most times they play, but because of the house percentage, the longer they play, the more likely they are to lose.
That's why "winners" [not counters] are given enticements and comps to come back.
Many blackjack players who hit a run hard, can easily make up for all past losses and be in considerable profit, but they don't stop, thinking this is the day.

I once turned $250.00 in $30,000 at Crown, and I'm barred because I took my winnings and didn't return for months.

They explained how big winners must return and keep turning over, or they get barred.

But that was a long time ago.

I think most people who quit while they're ahead can win.

When the run isn't there, you just need to be able to quit and save it for another time, those that don't won't ever be ahead, because the losses will outweigh the hard hits on runs.
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Old 16th June 2009, 08:46 PM
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I think most people who quit while they're ahead can win.

Yes, you can win if you leave up.

I had a system: get the 4 best paper tipsters saturday metro. Use their best tips. Simple as that. Make sure of course to leave out those best bets that contradict each other. I usually got between 2 to four tips. Very often I would win on the first one.

I went to the track and bet to win 200. Then 300. I did it for about a year, and then got bored with it. I was well ahead with two bad losing days.

I just got bored with it. Only those who have followed such a system will understand. I took a friend once. He tried it with 100 to win. We lost in race 1. We waited until race 4, and lost again. We won at short odds in race 6. I piled on a (comparitive) small fortune to win. Most of the time we just hung around and did nothing in between races. I remember him looking bored and his face was white when we won in a close one in the 6th. He never came back and I lost interest after a while. I remember being up well over 3 grand.

I always left as soon as I won. But it was dead boring.
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Old 16th June 2009, 09:39 PM
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Yes, that does work, and it worked because you got Bookies odds.
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Old 16th June 2009, 11:13 PM
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Yes, that does work, and it worked because you got Bookies odds.
It did work. But when it loses , it can lose big.

The bookies odds didn't help the day Mahogany (slowest run race ever), Schillaci (missed the start), and Naturalism (a peice of paper floated across the course and spooked it) all lost on the same Cox Plate day day. All short odds. I will always remember that numb feeling I had in my legs and feet as I walked backto the carpark. Grown men aren't supposed to cry, I kept telling myself. LOL

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Old 16th June 2009, 11:53 PM
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Yeah, there was a syndicate of guys going to the greyhounds doing the same on favourites.
Pick up any paper and you'll be hard pressed to find any meeting where a favourite didn't win at least once.

But they had horrendous amounts of money on short dogs, coming into the latter half of the program, you needed nerves of steel and a big wallet when the next favourite was $1.50.

It worked, but the stress got to them in the end.

One mistake, one missed opportunity, one dog going up with the lids, jumping the rail or getting spiralled sideways and it was a bloodbath.
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Old 17th June 2009, 07:55 AM
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On Unitab, are the tipsters best bets the ones with an asterix? I notice some of them sometimes have two selection over a meeting with asterixs. Also what are the ones with a plus sign before them?

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Old 17th June 2009, 08:21 AM
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On Unitab, are the tipsters best bets the ones with an asterix? I notice some of them sometimes have two selection over a meeting with asterixs. Also what are the ones with a plus sign before them?
* = Best Bet
+ = Best Eachway

* on Victoria Country/Provincial meetings (usually Rick McIntosh) = The "Tram Car Restaurant Special" for the day
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Old 17th June 2009, 08:41 AM
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I once turned $250.00 in $30,000 at Crown, and I'm barred because I took my winnings and didn't return for months.

They explained how big winners must return and keep turning over, or they get barred.

But that was a long time ago.



Barred from what?

They want you to return and keep turning over , yet they bar you from the establishment?
Sounds a bit contradictory to me.

I remember once I was putting out a fire in my bedroom, and then I woke up and needed to change my bedding

But that was a long time ago.
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Old 18th June 2009, 10:59 PM
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I remember a dream I had...
I was trapped in a room made of Marsh-mellows.
I took the logical approach & ate myself out to freedom.

When I awoke...
I discovered my pillow was missing....?
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