AngryPixie, From my research there is far more valuable information in the old posts than what is presented today.

I'm looking at a system posted many moons ago which gave me the idea I'm working on today. So far nearly 700 bets over the past four months and still procucing the goods. 24% POT.
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The old soldiers have probably gone to greener pastures leaving a new crop to carry on.

I agree Bernie .
Everything that one needs to win at racing has already been put up on the forum over the years so we can expect a rehash of whats already been posted.
Doesnt really give me much hope for any further mental stimulation and my furthering interests are now concerned with studying other languages.

Perhaps the next "break through" will be the studying of the horses and jockeys "Biorythyms" ala the 1970,s

Cheers
darky

Totally agree Darky.

Personally in my opinion here is why a lot of the old posters have moved on.

While your searching for your system or way to make money its all really exciting and new. Your trying new things and learning lots of stuff. Then one or two things click and you start making a profit. Eventually you get your whole system/technique automated and the excitement starts to dwindle. You no longer need to search and learn (you can but the drive usually isn't there anymore). You stop searching for new systems because the one(s) you have works and works well. Eventually its just numbers and a side income and is treated as such or is treated as a side job. There is no longer any excitement as its fairly boring when your winning consistenly. I'm not saying winning isn't great, becasue the money is great, but the passion isn't there anymore as its no longer a challenge. You then move onto other excitments in life which you can spend your winnings on (women, booze, jet skis, holidays, etc).

At least this is how I feel the progression goes.

I am currently at the stage where winning isn't quite boring but I no longer feel there is a challenge as I have been in profit for several months now and continuously growing my bank. Im slowly building up the bank and making more and more each month. But I don't watch the races. I come home, check the account balance, and go do other stuff. I just come in here to see how everyone else is going and if any exciting new ideas are coming up.

My current passion has turned to Neural networks (not the racing and sports neurals) using support vector machines vs feed forward/backpropergation networks. This is an interesting area whch I know has been explored thouroughly elsewhere but I am finding it interesting in how the machines can out tip the experts consistently in the research papers.

I could never not watch the races, unfathomable.

System betting in general is kinda boring on a day to day basis I find, but necessary. Im personally going through a protracted losing streak with my system which isn't much fun, the YTD profit margin is the only thing keeping me going.

I remember a few years back now when the system forum was a bit of a ghost town and the Racing forum was the place of most interest, somewhere along the line that all changed.

It is what you make of it I think.

Certainly negativity is going to put off contributors and potential new blood.
It is a journey, I have learnt so much over the years from contributors, it's fantastic. I feel so privileged to have an avenue to banter with other punters, in the pre internet days, you were pretty much on your own.
It probably saved me ten years of going down the wrong path.

In the beginning I was like the opening of 2001 space odyssey, no internet, on the floor of my bedroom with The Sportsman, a pencil and an exercise book.
These days, if I get something wrong, my computer says "What are you doing to me Dave"

Seriously, I don't contribute as much as I used to, because I have found an edge which is completely different to a system, but if I shared it, it would certainly disappear completely, because there isn't enough liquidity.
That's not to say I don't share other ideas though.

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This is on the money. Do you think this is why Don Scott may have invested into Trifecta betting.

My dad said to me on the phone - very experienced punter that shares me nothing if you want more excitment invest in different pools.

Keep the win/place bets flowing and maybe invest in the harness racing or dogs or maybe into Exactas etc...

UB yes I think that's exactly it.


That's exactly it too. Much better to give the tools to build on in my view.

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Pixie

"It's worth remembering that profit isn't profit until it's spent off the racecourse." -- Crash

While your searching for your system or way to make money its all really exciting and new. Your trying new things and learning lots of stuff. Then one or two things click and you start making a profit. Eventually you get your whole system/technique automated and the excitement starts to dwindle. You no longer need to search and learn (you can but the drive usually isn't there anymore). You stop searching for new systems because the one(s) you have works and works well. Eventually its just numbers and a side income and is treated as such or is treated as a side job. There is no longer any excitement as its fairly boring when your winning consistenly. I'm not saying winning isn't great, becasue the money is great, but the passion isn't there anymore as its no longer a challenge.

The above was from U.B.

I fully concur in fact that is exactly what has happened to me,
3 others on this site will confirm.

What i am doing now with these 3 is to look at what i am doing,
Now to be turned into something mechanical without,
The downloading of ratings, the form, the videos etc.

This has given me a new lease of life so to speak.

Cheers.
Garyf.