Hi all,

Knocking anyone or any sevice or Mag. in a personal derogitory way is not ok and not on and I have never indulged in it. However some of the pro management passion expressed here perhaps requires the handing out of a few straws. Freedom of speech is another matter and I don't think it is being curtailed here in any way as there is a mutual dependance in operation between contributors and management.

Views and opinion are what make the forum vibrant and also what attracts advertizing.

The management are smart enough to know that without us there is no forum and no income full stop. However, management requires from us the recognition of their legal position and right to survive in the real world.

I don't think we need to fear a form of dictatorship here. The management are smart enough to realise that to curtail free speech would see a mass exodus of forum contributors that would turn this site to mulch.

Cheers.



[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2003-10-29 18:37 ]

G'day all,
Let's keep OUR forum alive.
If there is a new poster asking for advice, I am sure you knowledgeable{? spelling**** will be able to respond within the guidelines.
Cheers
P.S. BE PIS**** OFF IF IT WENT. :evil:

Crash,
I cannot agree that it is NOT on knocking any services, punting systems etc that make extravegant claims that are PROVED to be false as was the case here recently.


Even ProPun have a scammers section.


I totally agree with PartyPooper that it is totally wrong for newspapers and mags running any add they are given just for the advertising dollar, without any checking at all on the validity of the add.

I can totally understand managements position in relation to legal action, BUT this is where I believe the law is wrong in that they can be sued when what is posted can be proved to be true and backed by documentation.

An old saying THE LAW IS AN ASS.


I for one would welcome a day in court with a certain gentleman, but He would never do it as He knows that he would lose and the publicity would hurt too much, I am sure a Judge would see through twisted words in an add.

It is still going on even as today and it makes my blood boil.

Cheers

If you host a public forum one might reasonably anticipate that postings will contain, from time to time, remarks that carry a potential for Libel. The remedy today is as simple as it has always been - delete the offending posts. Provided the Forum is conscientiously edited in a timely fashion there can be no cause to complain by anyone (including temporarliy aggrieved parties).

Accordingly, the issue remains one of diligent Forum management. Failures of the past neither belong, nor deserve, to be put at the feet of well meaning Forum participants.

As far as day to day Forum management is concerned they are far more pressing matters that warrant attention.

Kenchar, yes that's the point isn't it? that if what's said is already proven to be true how can it be liable?? anyway good on ya!

From my admittedly miniscule understanding of the libel laws, truth is not necessarily a defence if the intent is malicious.

Personally, I have no argument that management need to protect themselves from action. I do find the fact that they can be sued for the comments made by other individuals does seem to be a little odd, but then again....

I do hope however that they don't err too far on the side of caution.

I think it might also be worthwhile for everyone to gain an understanding of what is and is not libel. I did a quick search of the web, and came across a few links, one of which is
http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmar...defamation.html

This document is clearly (to me at least) a little onesided, but interesting reading all the same. If there's any sharks^h^h^h^h^h ooopss.. lawyers lurking perhaps they could provide some other links? (and if said lawyers take offence at my joviality please accept my most humblest and deepest apologies :smile:

Cheers,
Chris.

Very diplomatic stebbo :wink:

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Now that Ke... I mean "certain contibutors" are no longer going to have swipes at a "certain publication" look forward to their adds here soon ! nuk nuk nuk, wink wink !

Cheers.

Stebbo,
Thanks for the legal link,very interesting reading, and it seems the old saying THE LAW IS AN ASS is quite true.

It is a crime that people, publications etc can basically advertise anything they like especially when proved to be false and there is no retribution.

I could make some comments about certain govt departments I have approached, but can't now because of restrictioms.

Cheers

[ This Message was edited by: quapi on 2003-10-30 11:36 ]

the whole society is screwed at the moment because of litigation and public liability. don't see why the internet would be any different.

cheers

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