La Mer,

Sorry that you misunderstood the shorthand [Craigmoor/Just Cris for me]. Just Cris for me and Craigmoor was the handbrake's tip. When we I go to the races we have a bet each in each race.
Craigmoor does not race well from outside barriers so that was a put off for me straight away and a 5 length 4th. in a weak Geelong race last start inspired no confidence either. I never argue with the brake about her selections because Merphy's law is always looking for players. Craigmoore does have a very high win SR at 42% so perhaps that was part of her reasoning [?] Finishing last though was a suprise as it is a better horse than that.

I have been pondering the brake's handicapping methods for 16yrs and it's still a mystery. She does bag her fair share of winners though and on our honeymoon backed a quadi in only four selection for $600. Score yesterday from five races: 2 each but I did win more from our even bet amounts !!
Great day out and the eye candy in fashion on the fields [think hot day/skimpy clothes and a lot of champers] was a great bonus for this old ************.

Cheers.


[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2003-12-08 09:58 ]

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On 2003-12-08 09:38, crash wrote:
La Mer,

Sorry that you misunderstood the shorthand [Craigmoor/Just Cris for me]. Just Cris for me and Craigmoor was the handbrake's tip.

La Mer: Ah! Faith has been restored - Craigmoor's career record is somewhat misleading in regard to its current performance - injury prone and having shown nothing at its two runs back this prepartion from yet another injury, it was hard to see it performing will enough to win yesterday third-up at 1900m. Rgds

partypooper i thought devils dance may have fit into your selections? ************ hard day at belmont on saturday.

Umrum, it was mate but only for the place.

The others were win bets (unfortunately) I've got 2 plans running concurrently

cheers pp. have you drawn any conclusions from saturdays results?

i.e Giadresco is no good.
Hartley's dream is.
Prince of vasac???????
I thought irish pride got up to his old tricks again on the weekend not running up to his potential. had a perfect run and didnt go on with it. I'd say the bookies had a field day.

Umrum, re: conclusions. Not really except, maybe a mechanical rule i.e. No bets in ladies invitation races, but of course I'm only saying that cos it got beat if it had got up at about 5or6-1 I think it was, I would still be wearing the smirk! The Prince ran it's usual good race I presume cos I missed it (work commitments) and I think and thought b4 hand that Hartleys Dream was a tad better than most people thought. Mind you I reckon the price available for Changing lanes was very good, and was a good place bet.

They only bet 4.60 on course about 5.50 on the tote(thunderhawk). Yeah ladies invitations make it hard i think Lacey is the best jock but it depends mainly on the mount that they are on. I tend to disagree with you on Hartleys dream in the sense that I think it is, or was the most overhyped horse in perth. Great win and showed it's true ability but on exposed form you couldnt back it. Thats racing I suspose.

topsy99, yes got you now. I've tried many ways to cut out some of the losers without
cutting out too many winners, I've tried mechanical means, and own judgement .But so far
haven't found out how.

My small profit has been made backing all selections, and I don't seem to be able to
improve it overall by being more selective, but I'm still trying and in fact thats why I started
this thread. Thanks for your feedback.

by having a defining method helps to eradicate losers. but. many will slip under your guard.
on sunday william of oz was running.
at murray bridge.
i had it coming up well a couple of starts ago. i had it coming up ahead of pipkin the listed race in adelaide last week.
but on sunday i let it go.
even though it had a listed placing in adelaide on december 2002 it paid $61.
but you cant get them all.
i back listed horses only.
i like them to be in on the swing weights (my own definition) and relatively fresh.
i dont worry about anything else.
if i have too many selections i go for inside barriers and the best swing-weighted horse.
as a punter if all the worlds punters were graded i would be in the bottom half but it is good fun and i get some winners.
speaking of thunder hawk when it won a few starts ago i had two listed horses in the race i backed the other one and let thunder hawk go after backing it the start before. it paid $38.
criminal isnt it.

Partypooper,

Have you tried sorting your records into race types/classes to see if they shed any light on where your main loss is comming from ? Are you backing horses in worse than dead condt.? Do your records show loss there ? Are certain tracks more profitable than others for you ? You get my drift and probably have looked at above but you should also look at how you bet and check out what you results might have been betting differently. You might find a lead there as selection is usualy not the whole story.

Cheers.

[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2003-12-10 08:44 ]