Mark, Smartgambler is simply carrying a paid advertisement for Osvald Marchoni. We don't offer a roulette package ourselves.

There are well documented ways of beating roulette, either by various illegal mechanical means or by visual acuity, which very few people are able to manage but is possible. This is not widely known. Only the myriad mathematical systems that get spruiked are spurious.

Marchoni is an engineer so it's quite probable the system he is advertising is mechanical, in which case it may well work.

Ogden, there is a link to an online roulette simulator in the roulette section of Smartgambler. (Of course!) See menu on left hand side of page at http://www.smartgambler.com.au

Regards,

OZmium management.

PS. From memory the heading is "Casino Games" followed by sub heading "Roulette".

"There are well documented ways of beating roulette, either by various illegal mechanical means or by visual acuity"

Yeh but the poster wasn't talking about predicting where the ball will land based on physics, he was talking about recording previous results. The only way previous results might produce an advantage is if the wheel has a flaw. The sample size needed would be massive and the edge probally wouldn't be worth exploiting anyway.

Mr J,
If you reread the thread I think you'll see Management was replying to Mark's post which said:
"What's disappointing is that this site "smartgambler", is currently advertising a roulette system."
Management was not replying to the original poster who started the thread.

Thankyou management for that info

On 2004-07-06 15:52, Management wrote:
....................There are well documented ways of beating roulette, either by various illegal mechanical means or by visual acuity, which very few people are able to manage but is possible. This is not widely known. Only the myriad mathematical systems that get spruiked are spurious.

Marchoni is an engineer so it's quite probable the system he is advertising is mechanical, in which case it may well work.

u/quote]

Also quoting from your Smartgambler Roulette website in a discussion about the Reverse Labouchere incident.... ."The theory preferred by our professional gambler is that the syndicate was using the only method that can really beat Roulette, some sort of mechanical attack. The casino realised this and that is why the Leigh syndicate was banned (something unlikely to occur if the casino thought they were using a staking system only).

I'm intrigued. Management, would you please mind explaining "mechanical attack" ??

Still think you have lost the plot if you consider roulette gambling.

Ogden, there are only 3 ways to beat roulette:

1) Exploiting a flaw in the wheel.

2) Predicting where the ball will land based on physics, whether using eye and brain or a computer (yes they do exist).

3) Rigging the game. Ie having the dealer trying to hit the part of the wheel that you are betting on.

Anyone who thinks they can win at roulette long term by mechanical means (whatever that is) or otherwise must be dreaming. A flaw or bias in the wheel is the only possible way and the chances of finding that are like finding a needle in a haystack.

Kiwiguy read my post again. You are wrong about there being only one way to beat roulette. Roulette computers exist, and it is also possible to rig the game (dealer aim for your numbers).

The one thing you are correct about is that finding a wheel with a flaw is very unlikely. Even then it'd be questionable to bet it, as the edge would be small and variance massive.

Mr J,
Having the dealer try to hit the part of the wheel you are betting on. Come on now; with a manager looking over the table. Yeah right. I said long term profits not short term. I can win short term by taking red or black or odds or evens but to win long term is just a dream. Predicting where the ball will land by either using eye or brain? Isn't that what everyone does? I'm sure Mr J that if there are computers that will guarantee a long term profit from playing roulette then I'm sure you wouldn't be spending time here telling everyone about it. You would be in the Bahamas living a life of luxury from your winnings. I spend up to eight hours a day at the casino and see the same faces day in and day out and I have yet to see anyone win long term at roulette.